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post #16 of 50 (permalink) Old 02-06-2017, 12:47 PM
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Having traction control doesn't mean your tires won't spin (unless you have a way of suspending the laws of physics), it just means that you'll leave two black stripes instead of one.
Hmm. Well traction control that's wired into engine mgmt. (as ours are) will back off the fuel and reduce power to stop the tires from spinning - based on the determination that the front wheels are NOT spinning.

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Having traction control doesn't mean your tires won't spin (unless you have a way of suspending the laws of physics), it just means that you'll leave two black stripes instead of one.
I thought that was the function of the limited slip differential . . .

Traction control will either reduce fuel and/or apply brakes to achieve the goal of having all 4 wheels spinning at approximately the same speed . . .

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I just picked up a 2006 Mallet conversion in December, I really enjoy the limited driving I have been able to do with it. Handling is great IMO but it does have the upgraded adjustable Penske Coil over shocks. It is a LS2 5-speed manual car and it is traction limited.

Anouther option you may consider is buying a car already converted. I only spend a little more than the conversion companies seem to be charging for a very clean under 20,000 mile car. There are a few out there to consider.

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Well maybe the 4cyliders Kappa with either upgraded turbo wheel like mine and others with larger turbos the torque which is usually 350 or higher makes the rear tires with TC on, not only light up but the back end gets pretty tail happy.

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The stability control keeps the car pointed forward. The traction control acts in addition to the limited slip differential. The traction control reduces power with slip and cuts power with more slip. It will NOT turn a wheel when its on. You can get a chirp if you try but then it pulls power.

Remember this is without the TC on




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My understanding is that, typically, TC is spark and/or fuel cut, while stability control is selective brake application to, as rob said, keep the car pointed forward. The latter shouldn't be affected by more power, unless the CPU is really a POS.


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Well maybe the 4cyliders Kappa with either upgraded turbo wheel like mine and others with larger turbos the torque which is usually 350 or higher makes the rear tires with TC on, not only light up but the back end gets pretty tail happy.


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Im no expert but since TC relies on spark and/or fuel cut,regardless of HP/Tq, you should notice when this comes on as long as it is functioning properly, correct?

Since stability control is selective brake application I guess you could overpower your braking system and get as much wheel spin as desired. If this is the case shouldnt you should be checking your rotors, pads and calipers for excess wear or damage?

Either way it seems like something is wrong with your car and it should be checked.

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If this is the case shouldnt you should be checking your rotors, pads and calipers for excess wear or damage?
I had a C5 'vette a LONG time ago that I believe was one of the first models with so-called "Active Handling," which was labeled as a separate system from the traction control. The brake application is pretty light - it's just another way that the computer can limit slip on individual wheels, and shouldn't increase wear by any significant factor. If that system is kicking in often enough to trash your brakes, you're probably doing it wrong.
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Traction control..meh. First thing I do when I get in the car is turn it off.
It's nearly analogous to guns and full-automatic fire. Noobs mash on the trigger (like this) and never modulate it or compensate, experienced people know what trigger control is and maintain control under full-automatic fire (like this).
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It's nearly analogous to guns and full-automatic fire. Noobs mash on the trigger (like this) and never modulate it or compensate, experienced people know what trigger control is and maintain control under full-automatic fire (like this).
Haha! I know a few of those all or nothing guys....their stuff seems to be broke a lot.

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Im no expert but since TC relies on spark and/or fuel cut,regardless of HP/Tq, you should notice when this comes on as long as it is functioning properly, correct?

Since stability control is selective brake application I guess you could overpower your braking system and get as much wheel spin as desired. If this is the case shouldnt you should be checking your rotors, pads and calipers for excess wear or damage?

Either way it seems like something is wrong with your car and it should be checked.
When the TC cuts in, the motor basically goes from WOT to idle. You are not overpowering anything.

The SC works by applying differential front braking. It does not impact the TC.

Basically the GXP or cars with LSD has three systems that help maintain traction.

1) the driver
2) the mechanical LSD
3) the computer that executes the TC software

Its never been an issue for me. In fact, the worst thing that has happened to me is making a quick start and having the car nose dive when the TC cuts the power. You can selectively enable more or less overwatch from the TC

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