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:surprise: 1G2MG25X19Y000946 In Arkansas. :frown2: Sponge anyone?





9Y000946
41U - MYSTERIOUS (BLACK)
GXP Coupe
Man
8/7/2009

Loss WATER
Primary FLOOD
Key: Present
Start Code DIDN'T TEST
Odometer 12346
Odometer Status INOPERABLE DIGITAL DASH

Looks like the coupe was fully submerged for some time. The bathtub ring shows it was submerged to the windows. Wow...

My heart goes out to the owner, not listed in the latest registry.

We may want to add the coupe to the registry with the flood damage notation.

Currently in the IAAI auction site.



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If you could get it cheap enough you could use it as a parts car to build your own coupe from a roadster. Lots of work but might be a fun project.
 

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I have Hoosier looking in to it. Water that deep, it will be a job, no question, but still have a ton of parts extra for the Mallett. Interior stuff should be okay I would think. Have a new set of seats, doubt they are different. Have new under dash and most of a wiring harness. Will see.
 

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First and foremost is, what kind of water damage. Some site list if it is saltwater but if you are remotely interested in this car that would be the first thing to consider. All auctions allow for inspection of vehicles 1 day before and the day of the sale. All auction sites provided access to inspection services. If any combination of salt water was involved I would write this one off. The engine is most likely junk as water will be in cylinder with any open vale since it can enter through the turbo. The transmission and rear end can most likely be salvaged with a fresh refill of fluid. You can see water content in them when you drain and measure the amount of water. If salt water, cleaning of the wiring connectors will be useless and even with fresh water it is anything but certain of future problems. All the dash components will be gone including BCM. Then there is the interior and although the seats may be the same all the interior paneling behind the seats and in the trunk area will need to be removed and cleaned. Then there is the problem of the wring harnesses like dash and interior. All this being said if you are basically getting a body when you buy this type of flood car where the water has been high and now it sits in the hot sun eating away at the vulnerable components, and if it's saltwater it is eating away at all the metal as well.. I have done some flood cars in the past but anything above the bottom of the seats I pass on.
 

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What a shame, a manual GXP. I have to wonder if this was a recent Hermine victim?
 

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If I could get this for $2k I might think about it but I know it'll probably go for $8-10k. After the next 15 years, a salvage title won't affect the pricing on this car too much!! Here's my estimate...tell me if I'm in the ballpark:

Used Powertrain: $5000
Complete interior with dash: $5000
ECM/BCM: $600
Wiring: $3000

Total: ~$15000+auction price

Or....just use my car as a donor car!!! LOL....
 

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Salt Water damage in Arkansas? :huh:
Not being auctioned in Arkansas.


It is located at the Gulf Coast MS auction location which is right on the gulf coast. So perhaps the owner was on the Gulf Coast when the flooding occurred.

8209 Old Stage Rd

Moss Point, MS 39562
 

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On these salvage sites Vic, they get transferred in from many areas. Centrally locating the vehicles so it is easier for dealers/buyers to see them I think. On one of the sites I go to, they are always in the same place. Good sized city in a two or three state area. Texas has their own area normally.

I think If I could get it for under 4K, I would take it. 12K miles on the vehicle. Does not appear to have any body damage that I saw. I have removed everything from one of these things, not a GXP/Coupe but a Solstice. It really is not as much work as some would think.

Depending on how long it sat in the water, the engine/drive train, could be gone through and most likely end up perfect. Dash is most likely still good. Really isn't anything there but plastic and the main cross over brace. Speedo/BCM/ECM were not that much when I bough extras for the Mallett. The wiring most likely could be repaired with new ends from any donor car. I bought the complete wiring harness for my Mallett for 300.00.

What I most worry about is the interior moldings for the coupe. Have no idea what kind of sound proofing, padding stuff is involved.

Still interested Hoosier.
 

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On old cars, flood cars were no big deal - do some derustifying and swap out a few ignition components, and attend to any driveline effects and drive away.

Today's electronic cars are a huge issue - no electrical system will ever operate reliably again! You pretty much need to buy a complete vert as a donor and just swap every bit into the coupe shell after cleaning and protecting it. Huge amount of work!

What a shame!
 

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My biggest concern is the lower parts of the body and frame containing the saltwater. The electrical to me is not that big of deal. Everything needed on the electrical side is available in the junk yards, and a lot of it from the dealer ship. I went through a lot of this with the Mallett, not the water part, but missing electrical, cut harness in about every single area you could imagine. I only have one electrical problem with it. The trunk will not open unless the car is running. And we have not even tried to fix it yet.

I have an ECM out of a 2009 Coupe with less than 100 miles, I have a new BCM for one. Speedo cluster would be the biggest problem, as (according to dealer) mileage is retained in it. Dealt with that with the BCM we thought we had lost for the Mallett. But the cluster, AC controls, flashers, ignition switch are all available. Would put a new radio in it anyway with back up camera.. Would have the wiring harness that went to the top and any lights that are not in the Vert.

Everything in the car is plug and play, no chance of getting the wrong connector to the wrong system.

Will talk with the body shop guy today, and see what he says about the salt in the frame and body. That for me is the number one worry.

Plus it would be a salvage title, so could paint it Blazen. Maybe just put a V8 in it.
 

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Spoke with my body guy and mechanic, both say it can be saved. Not too much to worry about in the frame and body. Unless it had set there for months. The shop actually saved a Suburban that was submerged in Long Beach. Well before I started using them. Three years or more I guess. He is still driving it around. Never talked to him, but I guess he was there this morning.

My guess is it will go for more than I want to spend on it.
 

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I think after resurrecting the Mallet, pulling a coupe back from a flood sounds about right for you Skersfan. I for one. hope you do it. Not many of these around and I'm sure the thread will make for some good reading. Good luck to you if that's what you decide to do.
 

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I have restored many cars, mostly older ones.

But the Mallett was a challenge due to not knowing what Mallett Performance had done to it, and the moron that destroyed it. Not what GM had done to it. These are not that difficult, as I said almost all of it is plug and play electrically. You just have to remember the grounds!!!!

If I bought it, I would strip it completely, everything apart and start over. Having everything complete makes it a much easier deal it seems.

Doubt it will go for the 4k I would pay for it though. I am looking at a Salvage rollover GXP. It is not worth much I am pretty sure. But no air bags deployed. That is one of the main concerns on the flood damage one. Having to buy all the sensors and modules could be expensive.

Thanks Criggleman for the vote of confidence. Being such a small production run is the only reason I would do it. I am not much into rebuilding and selling them. I get too involved with them. If I get it, I will promise all you guys that it will be done to the same level as the Mallett, or it will be totally modified but to the same standards.
 

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I have restored many cars, mostly older ones.

But the Mallett was a challenge due to not knowing what Mallett Performance had done to it, and the moron that destroyed it. Not what GM had done to it. These are not that difficult, as I said almost all of it is plug and play electrically. You just have to remember the grounds!!!!

If I bought it, I would strip it completely, everything apart and start over. Having everything complete makes it a much easier deal it seems.

Doubt it will go for the 4k I would pay for it though. I am looking at a Salvage rollover GXP. It is not worth much I am pretty sure. But no air bags deployed. That is one of the main concerns on the flood damage one. Having to buy all the sensors and modules could be expensive.

Thanks Criggleman for the vote of confidence. Being such a small production run is the only reason I would do it. I am not much into rebuilding and selling them. I get too involved with them. If I get it, I will promise all you guys that it will be done to the same level as the Mallett, or it will be totally modified but to the same standards.
I think you are on the right track by looking at a donor car. All of the parts would work except anything behind the seats as that is different in the coupe. The dash wiring would work but you would most likely have to find a way to "rewire" the hatch release as that will certainly be different. I would junk the engine as it would cost more to have a shop go through it than to replace it with the one from yours or other donor car. Remember also that if you do have the winning bid at say 4k you can add another 1k to that for auction and buyers fees and then there is the shipping home of the vehicle it's self. Car will be branded as a "rebuilt flood" car once it is fixed. My guess 6k for flood car in your driveway, 3k for donor car, 1.5K for parts the donor will not have and programing.............now add labor and you have a coupe. Now this could all go up in flames if the insurance company offering this car at auction has a reserve of 6 or 7k
 

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One thing I did leave out, they could do this :surprise::surprise::surprise:

Sale Document :
NR PARTS ONLY(Texas)

Brand :
FLOOD
 

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FWIW, I'm starting to see running Solstices dipping into the $3500-$4000 range. High mileage is a given, as is minor dents and dings. I recently posted one for $2500 (seller claimed it still ran) but that had major damage too it. I'm also starting to see a fair amount of salvage Solstices being sold.

The saddest thing about this coupe is that it's a manual GXP. I wonder if State Farm Group Insurance would disclose if this was a salt water or fresh water flood victim? Or maybe the owner was drunk and drove it into a swamp. :devil:
 

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FWIW, I'm starting to see running Solstices dipping into the $3500-$4000 range. High mileage is a given, as is minor dents and dings. I recently posted one for $2500 (seller claimed it still ran) but that had major damage too it. I'm also starting to see a fair amount of salvage Solstices being sold.

The saddest thing about this coupe is that it's a manual GXP. I wonder State Farm Group Insurance would disclose if this was a salt water or fresh water flood victim? Or maybe the owner was drunk and drove it into a swamp. :devil:
I don't think it matters a lot whether it was fresh water or salt water, if the car was from a populated area, there was likely a component of sewage in the water, making for a nasty cleanup and sanitize job.

:what a mess:

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I am going to call my State Farm agent. Maybe they cold help me. Been giving them thousands a year for many years and never a claim. time for them to do something. Ha Ha!
 
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