[perris]

Hi everyone, been a while

now have 120,000 total miles on my two gxp's

What is everyone recommending for all weather tires now a days?

Looking forward to suggestions

thanks in advance

 

[TomatoSoup]

http://www.solsticeforum.com/forum/f55/nitto-motivos-all-weather-performance-81577/#post1223337

 

[JesseB]

Hey perris, I had a similar question, and was told Nitto Motivos and Michelin A3s are very good all season tires

 

[rob the elder]

:devil:

:agree::agree::agree:

My winter tires

 

[perris]

thanks guys, am now deciding if the Michelin A3s are worth the 80 dollars extra, I think the Michelin has an AA traction rating and the nittos have an A25k mi

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I just went to a customer tire review site and I see quite a few people hating the Michelins after they get 15-25k miles on them;

Tire started to come apart in small chunks and peel after 2.5 yrs 33,000 miles. Tread was still plenty but looked like the rubber was breaking down. took it to discount tire and was informed that this was a common issue

I am an avid Michelin fan. However, I am extremely dissapointed in these tires. After 14K miles, I am having to purchase a new set due to a manufacturing flaw. All four tires are experiencing a peeling effect that has caused enormous vibration, excessive noise, and a safety hazard. The tires are peeling apart. I would not recommend this tire to anyone.

The outer edges started to come apart in chunks on the front tires after 23,000 miles. After I had them rotated to the rear, the other two started to come apart as well. I had 25,000 miles on them when I took them in to america's tire company and asked to have them replaced under warranty. The store put up a fight claiming I did not request warranty replacement in time and that michelin would not honor the warranty because I still had 7/32 remaining on all 4 tires.

There are very few bad reviews of the nitto, I believe I am going with that tire

 

[Seltzinator]

thanks guys, am now deciding if the Michelin A3s are worth the 80 dollars extra, I think the Michelin has an AA traction rating and the nittos have an A25k mi

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I just went to a customer tire review site and I see quite a few people hating the Michelins after they get 15-25k miles on them;



There are very few bad reviews of the nitto, I believe I am going with that tire

Bear in mind that the Nitto Motivos are new so no one has put that kind of mileage on them. Same should be true of the newest version of the Michelin Pilot A/S 3s. I'm not sure about the Michelins but the Motivos come with a 60k mile warranty, which offers a lot of peace of mind.

 

[Somnambulator]

i dont have any experience with either model but cant speak highly enough of my nitto nt555 summer tires. its really hard to squeal them when not really trying to, and i should have about 270 rwhp.


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[mcpigm01]

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...oYear=2008&autoModel=Solstice&autoModClar=GXP

I had these on my previous solstice and they were outstanding. Quiet, didn't misbehave in any way, had 51k miles on them when I sold it. They may have gotten to 60k. Handled well in dry, wet, and just ok in snow but I figure that had more to do with the solstice being rwd.

 

[perris]

Bear in mind that the Nitto Motivos are new so no one has put that kind of mileage on them. Same should be true of the newest version of the Michelin Pilot A/S 3s. I'm not sure about the Michelins but the Motivos come with a 60k mile warranty, which offers a lot of peace of mind.

I considered the fact the nittos weren't new enough to get bad reviews however what was most alarming about the Michelins, they gave the customers a really hard time about replacing the tires, bizzare customer service

 

[perris]

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...oYear=2008&autoModel=Solstice&autoModClar=GXP

I had these on my previous solstice and they were outstanding. Quiet, didn't misbehave in any way, had 51k miles on them when I sold it. They may have gotten to 60k. Handled well in dry, wet, and just ok in snow but I figure that had more to do with the solstice being rwd.

thanks for the info, I already purchased my nittos but I am getting another set of tires for my custom rims and will look into these

 

[perris]

i dont have any experience with either model but cant speak highly enough of my nitto nt555 summer tires. its really hard to squeal them when not really trying to, and i should have about 270 rwhp.


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thanks, I am stoked about these tires, I am only first getting off the oems which was the weak link in handling for our cars

thanks everyone for all your help

perris

 

[Seltzinator]

thanks for the info, I already purchased my nittos but I am getting another set of tires for my custom rims and will look into these

Let us know how you like the performance on the Motivos. I've heard good things and they got good reviews, but I always like to grow my sample size.

thanks, I am stoked about these tires, I am only first getting off the oems which was the weak link in handling for our cars

thanks everyone for all your help

perris

Can you explain how the OEM rims are the weak link in handling? Are they excessively heavy or something?

 

[TomatoSoup]

Can you explain how the OEM rims are the weak link in handling? Are they excessively heavy or something?

OEM tires. He didn't say rims.

 

[perris]

My first look review, not too glowing;

I don't know if these tires need to break in but grip in cornering is not even close to the oems, they let loose under very little gforce

There are pros to the tires though;

Very quite, very smooth running, when they do break free they do it much more gradually then the oem which stuck till they didn't, so sliding was very hard to control, the nittos let you know they are about to let loose and sliding is more controlled

I'll come back once I get them in the rain, I suspect that's where they will shine but dry pavement is a total disappointment

I do not recommend these tires, maybe my opinion will change once I have a few thousand miles on them

I'll post my review as a dedicated thread

 

[TomatoSoup]

What pressure do you have in them? If you are using stock pressure, try raising to 32 psi, and then 35 psi. See if you find a sweeter spot.

And/or read this: At what pressure do I run my replacement tires at - A formula

 

[perris]

What pressure do you have in them? If you are using stock pressure, try raising to 32 psi, and then 35 psi. See if you find a sweeter spot.

And/or read this: At what pressure do I run my replacement tires at - A formula

I assume the installer used stock pressure, I'll try the difference and come back, thanx ts!

there is also someone who reviewed the tires that claim there is some kind of mold release compound that takes a couple of weeks to wear off, I'll be back in a couple of weeks and let everyone know if performance improves