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The lease on my current rental, a 2014 Nissan juke, is and was coming up on June 1, I wanted to start living life more, and I felt my car was a part of that.So a few months ago I began searching through use cars to purchase instead of leasing, which I no longer want to do, i.e. leasing. I came upon the Pontiac Solstice very recently; it was love at first sight; I just knew it was the right car for me. There are not many in New York where I live, on Long Island, in fact I found only one near me, it was a 2008 base version. At that time which is now two weeks ago or so, I did not know there was a GXP version with a more powerful engine and other amenities. I immediately had a buyer's remorse after learning there was a more powerful model of this car insofar that somehow I missed that there were two versions of this car, though I was moving very fast and have been moved very fast, so don't want to lay too much guilt upon myself. The main reason I bought this car was for fun, and I like power and speed. I paid $6500, it has 45,000 miles on it, other than some minor cosmetic imperfections, it seems to be in perfect condition. I very much like the car, it just a thorn in my side knowing now that there is a more powerful version, and whether right or wrong it's really eating at me. So I started thinking about quickly making a swap before I settle in, and moving toward a GXP.

If you good people be so kind as to graciously give me some feedback on my decision to possibly sell my currently newly acquired to upgrade to a GXP, which is going to cost a few thousand to make happen, from what I can tell so far.

While we're at it, as I started researching, I saw that there are some companies that do an eight cylinder conversions on this car, which is intriguing. To anybody's knowledge please are any such company still in business? Links to any please? Approximate prices on how much it is to do an eight cylinder upgrade? Approximately how long does it take to get done please?

Any help or assistance and such would be most authentically appreciated!
 

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Welcome to the group. Hope you have many miles of smiles. If you are longing for more power then going to the gxp is the way to go, imo. Gxps were not available until 2007 and are holding a higher resale value. You could add a turbo or supercharger to your NA, but you won't have the gxp upgrades and will spend $5000+. The v8 conversion will cost around $25,000, you may be able to find a completed car at that price. You have many decisions to make! Enjoy your new ride.
 

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I live in NY and had specific wants for the GXP I wanted (color, auto, etc). I ended up buying the one I have in Florida.
 

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If you need a V8 the best thing to do is buy one that's already done. I have a friend here in Florida an also a forum member that has one for sale.
The price is in the low 30's but the car besides the V8 conversion has a lot of upgrades to the interior and suspension.
You may want to send a PM to yamatr3 here on the forum if you are interested.
The car has been feature in this forum a few times and is one of the favorites of Norm fiber glass extraordinaire here in the forum.
Welcome to the forum.
Also the price you paid was good for the mileage so a trade into a GXp or even out right selling it should not cost you to much.
 

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Both the NA and the GXP are beautiful cars, and each offers a different level of performance and driving experience. And, there are LOTS of upgrades available for each. I know a lot of Colorado drivers who love their NAs, and I salute them. I also know many satisfied GXP owners (including me). You have a nice car. Even if you invest $$$$$ in it, it won't be a GXP. GM put a great deal of engineering into the GXP, and it shows. If power and high performance are important to you, sell the NA, and spend some time finding the right GXP. There are lots of such cars featured in this forum. Remember, the idea is to have FUN, not be miserable regretting your initial choice. Good luck.
 

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Both the NA and the GXP are beautiful cars, and each offers a different level of performance and driving experience. And, there are LOTS of upgrades available for each. I know a lot of Colorado drivers who love their NAs, and I salute them. I also know many satisfied GXP owners (including me). You have a nice car. Even if you invest $$$$$ in it, it won't be a GXP. GM put a great deal of engineering into the GXP, and it shows. If power and high performance are important to you, sell the NA, and spend some time finding the right GXP. There are lots of such cars featured in this forum. Remember, the idea is to have FUN, not be miserable regretting your initial choice. Good luck.
that was really excellent advice. The idea is to have fun not to regret. And a man a state of regret at this point. I think you just helped me to make the decision to make the swap. Thank you
 

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Welcome to the group. Hope you have many miles of smiles. If you are longing for more power then going to the gxp is the way to go, imo. Gxps were not available until 2007 and are holding a higher resale value. You could add a turbo or supercharger to your NA, but you won't have the gxp upgrades and will spend $5000+. The v8 conversion will cost around $25,000, you may be able to find a completed car at that price. You have many decisions to make! Enjoy your new ride.
please do you know any companies that do the work? Any links please? And what's with one put into Google to find one already done? What is it called? Thank you
 

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If you need a V8 the best thing to do is buy one that's already done. I have a friend here in Florida an also a forum member that has one for sale.
The price is in the low 30's but the car besides the V8 conversion has a lot of upgrades to the interior and suspension.
You may want to send a PM to yamatr3 here on the forum if you are interested.
The car has been feature in this forum a few times and is one of the favorites of Norm fiber glass extraordinaire here in the forum.
Welcome to the forum.
Also the price you paid was good for the mileage so a trade into a GXp or even out right selling it should not cost you to much.
I will contact Him, thank you.

without any need to get into tech-specifics, is the V8 much quicker than the GXP?
25,000 is probably a lot more than I want to get involved with just to go a little bit faster and such.
I think your advice about trading in what I have for GXP is a very good idea, thank you, however, it probably will have to do this by acquiring a GXP long-distance, have it shipped, and I'm not inclined to think that any dealer is going to want to have my car shipped to them. Any ideas on that please? Also I am waiting for the new title to come back from Albany. so I am essentially in a no-title period of time, I have not purchased a car and quite some time, as I have been leasing for some time, I am not really sure approximately how long it takes for a title to come back from Albany, and I don't believe I can sell the car until I have a new title in hand, or does anybody know different please? Yes I am an attorney, and yes there are huge holes in my legal expertise as I do mostly entertainment law, we are a special breed, and really not "lawyers" as such. I have not done "regular law" really ever, since graduating in 1996.
 

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I would think that you would be required to have the title, in your name, in order to sell your vehicle. This is the time of year that the kappas come out for sale. With you being in the north you should be able to find a nice lower mileage car since most are stored away in the winter and not daily drivers, like the southern Cars. Whatever you do, good luck!
 

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First off let me welcome you to the forum it's loaded with knowledgeable people who are always willing to help with anything involving our cars . Now as someone who has a modified NA I'd like to offer my point of view : My car is as quick as a GXP ,as for the suspension it literally handles like a go cart my total cost for my upgrades listed is less than 5 grand and when I was looking that was basically the difference between similar cars . I have a Hann Turbo kit ,Eibach springs , Koni shocks , a complete DDM Works brace package , and Werks Performance adjustable sway bars ,there is more but these are the basics . I enjoy modifying cars have done it all my life and when I went looking I could not find a GXP anywhere near me with the color and options I have so I ended up with an NA and knew I would not leave it stock . LS conversion cars are unique and if they are done right , that's the big issue with them , they can be a blast to own on the other hand a modified GXP or even an NA can put you in the same horsepower range for a lot less money .I was in the market for one a couple of years ago and did a lot of research and the bottom line was find a car already done because the current market for them is small and the going price is mid 20's and you should end up with a car that's sorted out. If you're looking for performance and not really into working on a car go with a GXP it's a hell of a package and with some minor tweaks can surprise a lot of the tuner cars running around .As with anything it all boils down to what you want out of a car and if selling the NA as opposed to modifying it and picking up a GXP you can't go wrong with either choice .
 

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I would post your car here in the for sale section of the forum and also in other venues, also people will travel at times to pick up the car.
As mentioned above you do need the title in hand before you can sell. Here in Florida it can take up to a couple of weeks to get it.
His V8 is quick since it is also tune, but there are upgrades that can be done to the 4cylinder GXP to make it also very fast and improve the handling. His car also has a six speed instead of the 5 speed on the GXP or base car. He has $65,000 + invested in his car but as conversions goes
the original owner takes it on the chin when the car is put up for sale.
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Why not try the Solstice that you have purchased first...you may like it. That way you can wait on the title and not pay any more than you need to. If you decide that you want a GXP try one out. There is a GXP listed on the forum today that looks like a good buy.
 

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I would think that you would be required to have the title, in your name, in order to sell your vehicle. This is the time of year that the kappas come out for sale. With you being in the north you should be able to find a nice lower mileage car since most are stored away in the winter and not daily drivers, like the southern Cars. Whatever you do, good luck!
these are really good points, and I think I will post my car for sale here, thank you for the input
 

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Why not try the Solstice that you have purchased first...you may like it. That way you can wait on the title and not pay any more than you need to. If you decide that you want a GXP try one out. There is a GXP listed on the forum today that looks like a good buy.
good point, the thing is I have OCD with this kind of stuff, and I feel as if I will have regret much more than enjoyment which is why was asking if anybody really knows if there is a tremendous difference between the base model and the GXP model, so I might as well pose a question: any opinions if there is a tremendous difference? When I say difference, I'm speaking about performance, speed, handling, etc. Thank you
 

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First off let me welcome you to the forum it's loaded with knowledgeable people who are always willing to help with anything involving our cars . Now as someone who has a modified NA I'd like to offer my point of view : My car is as quick as a GXP ,as for the suspension it literally handles like a go cart my total cost for my upgrades listed is less than 5 grand and when I was looking that was basically the difference between similar cars . I have a Hann Turbo kit ,Eibach springs , Koni shocks , a complete DDM Works brace package , and Werks Performance adjustable sway bars ,there is more but these are the basics . I enjoy modifying cars have done it all my life and when I went looking I could not find a GXP anywhere near me with the color and options I have so I ended up with an NA and knew I would not leave it stock . LS conversion cars are unique and if they are done right , that's the big issue with them , they can be a blast to own on the other hand a modified GXP or even an NA can put you in the same horsepower range for a lot less money .I was in the market for one a couple of years ago and did a lot of research and the bottom line was find a car already done because the current market for them is small and the going price is mid 20's and you should end up with a car that's sorted out. If you're looking for performance and not really into working on a car go with a GXP it's a hell of a package and with some minor tweaks can surprise a lot of the tuner cars running around .As with anything it all boils down to what you want out of a car and if selling the NA as opposed to modifying it and picking up a GXP you can't go wrong with either choice .
you, and everybody else, so far just knocking me out with how cool you all are, the thing is I don't know a screwdriver from a hammer, so doing any modifications on my own is not even possible, I would have to pay for somebody to do everything, and they really don't have any knowledge base even close to what seems to be an encyclopedia of what you have, so it probably is not doable. The GXP seems like much more affordable and reasonable idea. Do you or does anybody else have any thoughts on is there a big difference in performance between the GXP and the eight cylinder versions?
 

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good point, the thing is I have OCD with this kind of stuff, and I feel as if I will have regret much more than enjoyment which is why was asking if anybody really knows if there is a tremendous difference between the base model and the GXP model, so I might as well pose a question: any opinions if there is a tremendous difference? When I say difference, I'm speaking about performance, speed, handling, etc. Thank you
Of course there is a big difference between base and gxp. Completely different engine, 50% more power, upgraded clutch, upgraded suspension, etc, even the axle shafts are different. Interiors and colors are similar, and much optional base equipment is std on the gxp. Why not do some searching and reading on google and here. Lots of info out there, and more than has been posted here.

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I went the route of getting a 2.4 (base) and adding a bunch of go-fast parts (ie, turbo), because I got a really good deal on the car, had never driven a GXP, and didn't understand how a 2.0L could be *that* much faster than a 2.4L. I thought adding the turbo would more than make up for the difference.

Now, with all of the work I've done, I'd say my car is a bit quicker than a GXP. However, if I'd put all of that time and effort into a GXP rather than a base model, I suspect I'd have a faster car - the 2.0L blocks can take a lot more abuse than the 2.4L - that would be a lot more reliable.

Long story short (too late): if speed is your goal, and moving to a GXP is an option, go for it. Get a nice tune and enjoy. If you want to stick with your NA, be prepared to spend significant time and money to get to the same power levels. Honestly, it'll wind up costing you as much, or more, than the price delta between your base and a GXP.

Depending on the type of cosmetic imperfections your car has, and what sort of mechanical condition it is, you may be able to get quite a bit more than the $6500 you paid for it, especially if you list it in other parts of the country. Back in 2003, I flew from Dallas to New Jersey to buy a Miata in the dead of winter, for $4000. I drove it for three years, parked it for a year when I got my first Boxster, then loaned it to a friend who promptly wrecked it. After four years, and an additional 90k miles, the insurance company gave me $7000 for it.

Moral of the story: convertible prices are extremely variable, depending on time of year and geography. Good luck!
 

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I have a Base Solstice N/A converted to turbo. It is ridiculous awesome fun, can't imagine the Solstice without mad power.

My opinion on this is, a modified car requires special attention to maintain and service outside the scope of Professional Mechanics who are proficient at solving OEM problems backed by wiring diagrams and service procedures. We can then frame the GXP as a "standardized modified" car above the base model:

GXP = factory modified "turbocharger kit" backed by $1,860,000 in development costs to integrate the 2.0L turbo into the Solstice

Base + Turbo = aftermarket turbo kit backed by knowledge, experience, bravery of private companies to give you just a kit. Even if you take it to a place, they have bills to pay and other customers waiting in line...also you want the car done as inexpensive and as quick as possible, so they are pressured to get it done with good enough quality.
 
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