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*sorry for the long read*

... so i've always hated driving my GXP when it rains, because the car gets way too squirrely on the freeway. on some occasions, i've left it at home and rented a car to go to work. well last Tuesday, i should've rented a car.

i was on my way home(12.45PM) and in the number 2 lane. it had been raining for hours and it was coming down lightly. i hit some water and started to slide into the number 1 lane. i was then hit by a big Dodge Ram truck which spun me across the 3 left lanes. i hit the center median and was facing traffic while the car was taking up the carpool lane. the front was sticking out into the fast lane. when i hit the median, the whole car bounced up causing me to hit my head hard on one of the beams along the roof. had a cut about a inch long.

when the car stopped, i turned off my iPod(never missed a beat and was still going). tried to put it in reverse to even out the car, so i wasn't in the way of the fast lane(by this time, most traffic was stopped because of this). i could hear one of the wheels moving when i tried to accelerate, but the car quickly turned off by itself. open the driver's door to find that the back left wheel has the tire coming off and not quite attatched.

the truck that hit me, pulled over to see if i was alright. i told him we are not safe here just sitting out here in the carpool lane, so let's cut across traffic and onto the proper shoulder. when we get there, 2 CHP cars and a ambulance find us. we go thru the usual routine and answer questions. i call for a flatbed truck in the meantime. tow truck driver thinks car is totalled because he noticed frame damage.

fast forward to today. insurance company says it's my fault(which i assumed it would be). a insurance adjuster looked at the car and told me all the damagae he could see. he said at the minimum, the car has a estimated amount of $10K worth of damage which included suspension, tires, muffler, quarter panels, front & back bumpers, etc. just waiting to talk to the loss adjuster about my settlement check since car is going to be written off.

i bought my GXP in November 2010 with 15K miles on it. it now has 49K miles on it. this is the second accident it's been in since i had it. first one i was sitting at a red light and some idiot hits me from behind because he was wearing flip-flops and had both feet on both pedals. the car also was in at least 1 accident before i bought it. in any case, i will not be buying another Sol. i loved my car, but it's time to be moving on. not sure what i'll get next.

here are some photos:

 

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sorry about your loss. All 4 tires the stock goodyear's? I've heard nothing but negative on these tires and wet roads, and it sounds like it was totally your tires that caused the initial loss of control. I plan on getting rid of our goodyears but not in any hurry since our car will likely never see rain.
 

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nuts...

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I was gonna say, if you're running the stock tires that's your problem. One of the first things I changed. Run my car all the time in the rain now.
 

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Pull the grills off and send them to me--- I'll pay you for em'
 

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Awwwwww..another bites the dust.....NOOOOOOO!!!!!

If it has frame damage, it's very very light frame damage. Usually frame damage would cause your doors to protrude and from the pics, I don't see that. Even the deck lid still fits between the 1/4 panels. Now that's not saying the trunk floor isn't bent or something, but all in all, it doesn't look that bad (for those of you that can do body work!!!)
 

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Sorry for your accident. It does not matter who is at fault, you pay for insurance to make you whole after any damage that e creeds your deductible.

This is kind of surprising. The NA factory tires are very bad in water but the GXP factory Gpodyears have a good rep. Many switched them on the NA cars back in the day. I have driven through blizzards with no problems.

Was your stability control system functional? I have seen it preclude similar loss of control events in the past.
 

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Sorry for your accident. It does not matter who is at fault, you pay for insurance to make you whole after any damage that e creeds your deductible.

This is kind of surprising. The NA factory tires are very bad in water but the GXP factory Gpodyears have a good rep. Many switched them on the NA cars back in the day. I have driven through blizzards with no problems.

Was your stability control system functional? I have seen it preclude similar loss of control events in the past.
But at 50K there probably was not much tread left. My wife drove her redline to about the same mileage and tread was about gone.
 

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This is kind of surprising. The NA factory tires are very bad in water but the GXP factory Gpodyears have a good rep. Many switched them on the NA cars back in the day. I have driven through blizzards with no problems.
Oh, certainly, the RSAs are crap, but I wasn't that much more impressed with the F1s that come on the GXP (NOTE: these are NOT the same F1s that most people buy aftermarket and get rave reviews. Those ones are MUCH better but also MUCH more expensive than many alternatives)
 

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F1s are crap in the rain, when they are new, so toss in the mileage and you are hydroplane city.

Glad you are alright, that is the most important thing.
 

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spooky thread indeed.

Do you remember your comment in this thread, just a week ago, post 6?:

http://www.solsticeforum.com/forum/f55/new-tires-2007-gxp-74351/
yes, i do and Oceansol replied on the 19th which was the day it happened. my car was a DD so unless i rent a car every single time it rains(to expensive for me), have to drive it. yes, it had the stock tires on it. when i get the print out of all the damage the adjuster saw, i will post it here.
 

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"My father is a television repairman. He has the ultimate set of tools. I can fix it."

Glad you're okay Spooky. Pics of wrecked Kappas make my hair hurt!
 

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Glad it was not worse. Sure sounds scary to me.

Stock tires on every car I've bought in the last 20 years have been crap in the rain regardless of who made the car or the tire. The GXP is great in the rain with decent.

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My humble advice to anyone else, with stock F1s on a GXP/Redline:
(I have been daily driving mine since 2008)

Ditch the F1s asap. I pulled them off my wife's car after the first year and replaced with Eagle GT Asymmetric. She drives in blood alley between Ft. Collins and Denver on a regular basis. (Looking back, I wish I would have pulled them in the first month) The F1s are an ok dry/warm weather tire. But quite frankly, they are not even great in those conditions. For a supposed "High Performance Summer Tire", my stupid old school BF TAs stuck better. And the rain groves on the F1s are very minimal. Fine for light rain, but as soon as you hit anything moderate to heavy, they just can not channel enough to do much good.

The GTs are far superior rain tires. And, they are stickier in dry/warm conditions than the stock F1s; which is amazing because you actually have less foot print because of the wider rain groves. But the rubber is gooier. The tread is waaay deeper, so very good water channeling abilities.

I burnt though the stock F1s on my car in about 30,000 miles of road time (summer only, I run snows in the winter). And after about 15,000-20,000 miles of road time; they became very unreliable in rain conditions. Hydroplane City. But I was aware of it, and took precautions. Besides, I am a cheap bastard, and like to get my money's worth. :lol: Now I am burning through my wife's left over F1s that I pulled off her car. I figure I have to more seasons, before they are down to cheater slicks as well. After that, I will finally get something decent for my car.

Believe me when I say, tires make all the difference in the world on these cars. My wife's Sky is completely stock, not even a tune. If I am following her through the twisties, she can walk on me like I am sitting still. My 80 lbs of torque advantage doesn't mean jack crap when she can stick like glue.:lol:

And if we both leave from Loveland to drive home to Ft. Collins in the rain at the same time, I get home 30 minutes later.:banghead:
 

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Where the rubber meets the road . . .

Believe me when I say,
tires make all the difference in the world on these cars.
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The pre-production models and pre-release Auto Show vehicles all had the high performance Goodyear F1 GS D3 tires installed. When they started to come off the assembly line GM cheapened out and put RSAs on them and later put the slightly better F1 GS2s on the turbo kappas.
 

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:agree:​


The pre-production models and pre-release Auto Show vehicles all had the high performance Goodyear F1 GS D3 tires installed. When they started to come off the assembly line GM cheapened out and put RSAs on them and later put the slightly better F1 GS2s on the turbo kappas.
"Slightly" being the operative word. Anyone here knows the stock tires aren't the best (trying to be nice here) and the tread on those tires must have been getting pretty thin with that mileage if they were originals. The tires should have been replaced with something better a long time ago. :(

Glad you are okay.
 
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