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Hi everyone, I have a small dilemma that is kind of bugging me right now.

I want to wait to buy my Solstice, preferrably around this time NEXT year, april or may 2006. Why, because financially it will work much better then, and hopefully there could be news of a GT/GXP model by then? I have planned to buy this car for 3 years, the target date for me has always been spring 2006, so I plan to stick to it.

However, my local dealership, a large GM dealer, contacted me and told me that they will only get 2-3 Solstii per year. I said that's nice, but I'd like to order my own Solstice with my own choice of options. At first the salesman was unwilling to help, he tried to pressure me into buying the first run of cars available this summer.

I told him of my plan to purchase in 2006 and he said that there was no guarantee of getting one. To which I said, I would order MY car when I want it thank you very much. It's not like GM is going to STOP production after the first 1000 anyways? I have money, they build cars, the logic is pretty simple, if they refuse to build my car for me then they will lose my business PERIOD.

My question is this, should I rush out and buy one of the first Solstii and likely get gouged by the dealer, or should i stick to my plan knowing that this car, like the new Mustang and the PT cruiser before that, will have a HUGE initial demand, then taper off?
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Stick to your guns. There's no reason you can't order a car next winter for spring 2006 delivery. This dealer sounds like a high-pressure guy. There will be plenty of cars to go around after the initial surge (first 6 months).
for what's it worth...
if I dont get an EOP model Im going to order one in the winter similar to your plan. with the internet buying choices out there you may not have to haggle with anybody. Id say you may want to stick to your guns and order one when you are ready to, and from somebody who cares about your business.
psycho-squirrel said:
Hi everyone, I have a small dilemma that is kind of bugging me right now.

I want to wait to buy my Solstice, preferrably around this time NEXT year, april or may 2006. Why, because financially it will work much better then, and hopefully there could be news of a GT/GXP model by then? I have planned to buy this car for 3 years, the target date for me has always been spring 2006, so I plan to stick to it.

However, my local dealership, a large GM dealer, contacted me and told me that they will only get 2-3 Solstii per year. I said that's nice, but I'd like to order my own Solstice with my own choice of options. At first the salesman was unwilling to help, he tried to pressure me into buying the first run of cars available this summer.

I told him of my plan to purchase in 2006 and he said that there was no guarantee of getting one. To which I said, I would order MY car when I want it thank you very much. It's not like GM is going to STOP production after the first 1000 anyways? I have money, they build cars, the logic is pretty simple, if they refuse to build my car for me then they will lose my business PERIOD.

My question is this, should I rush out and buy one of the first Solstii and likely get gouged by the dealer, or should i stick to my plan knowing that this car, like the new Mustang and the PT cruiser before that, will have a HUGE initial demand, then taper off?
I'm sure by the time the allocation units start hitting the lots, there'll be lots of feedback about dealers you can trust, prolly a few in your area, or at least close by. . Another option is a courtesy delivery, but I won't go into detail about it as not to ruffle any feathers. A good dealer will be more concerned about long-term business than a quick buck selling over sticker. If you do run out of options, go out to the country, pick up a local paper, and look thru the classsifieds for the little inset pics of salesmen/women. They're usually the ones who are the most reliable/reputable, and are always looking to add another long-term customer to their list. They are generally very good with customer servie, and will "handle you with kid gloves,"--lingo for for a good, solid repeat customer.
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These cars will not be permanently sold out. There is likely to be a very big initial demand, and tight supply for a while, possibly a year. However, I think the roadster market is about to get flooded too. New Solstice, new Miata, the Sky early next year, VW's roadster on the near horizon, and all of them on top of the old standbuys. I don't think Solstice sales will tank, but I have a feeling you will be able to order one to suit by next spring, and if not at your dealer at another that is more willing to work with you and/or has a better allocation.
Thanx for the encouragement guys......i was feeling kind of pressured by that salesman and i HATE pushy car salesmen.

I really do worry about all the hype here for the first 1000 (not available here in canada anyway) but alot of people are going to be gouged i think. Can you say first 1000 GTO's? Remember what that was like? Some dealers over-charged them SIGNIFICANTLY, and couldnt sell them, some dealers couldn't get a GTO to save their lives, while other dealers had dozens of cars just sitting there, over-priced. :willy: Now, thankfully, GTO prices are more in line with demand.

I sincerely hope that the Solstice will be easier to buy come next spring, and the longer I wait the more money I will save in the bank, making the purchase easier financially.
I understand your pain pyscho squirrel, I would love to have one of the first 1000, but next spring is a much better time to make the purchase. My fear is the dealer greed surcharge will be in full swing for next spring's cars, especially in snow prone areas. I say this because of the treatment I have been fortunate enough to receive at Pontiac dealers. Lied to, ignored completely, one didn't want to unlock the car I wanted to look at, and huge markups on the first GTOs. Why do the Pontiac dealers in Ohio have to be such @#$%^&!? I am frustrated because I like the car so much and am tired of the hassles the closest dealers are giving me.
Fformula88 said:
New Solstice, new Miata, the Sky early next year
That's big factor, 3 new roadsters all completing in the under 27k class. Lots of competition.
Definately stick to the plan, Im in the same boat, I have to wait a little longer for financial reasons, and its killing me with suspense, but at the same time, Im very interested to see if they will actually but out a "charged" version of some sort and maybe even a hard top, which seems less likely. Either way the Solstice will be ours!
psycho-squirrel said:
It's not like GM is going to STOP production after the first 1000 anyways? I have money, they build cars, the logic is pretty simple, if they refuse to build my car for me then they will lose my business PERIOD.
My question is this, should I rush out and buy one of the first Solstii and likely get gouged by the dealer, or should i stick to my plan knowing that this car, like the new Mustang and the PT cruiser before that, will have a HUGE initial demand, then taper off?

This is a concern of mine also. I don't want to be left out of the hype loop now, for fear of seeing the sticker price get jacked down the road.
Who wants to pay 5K-15K over 25K if you don't have to? :cryin:
Hope this helps:
GM plans to produce 16,000 Solstices. This news from the largest NE Pontiac dealer (NJ).
Is 16,000 the number they want to make for the rest of 2005, or is that what they expect to sell in a full year time frame?

Also I really don't expect there to be a price jack for a while. You've easily got this year and all of 2006 at the current price I bet. Also if it did go up I'm betting it would be that much. If you think about it the Sky's price has already been announced for the selling year of 2006, and it comes in below $25,000 with most of the SOlstice options. They're not going to raise the SOlstice price above the price of the car that's mroe upscale then it.
solli4me said:
This news from the largest NE Pontiac dealer (NJ).

What does "NE" stand for?
Small Dealer said:
What does "NE" stand for?
My guess would be North East
dengel said:
My guess would be North East
My first thought too. But "largest dealer North East" isn't in New Jersey. Most months there isn't even a New Jersey dealer in the top 10. So I thought it might stand for something else. Guess I should have take it in combination with the 16,000 unit figure.

We (dealers) are looking worse and worse each day.
In that area NE also stands for the New England area.
brentil said:
In that area NE also stands for the New England area.
I know that parts of Connecticut don't like to be thought of as New England. New Jersey is a stretch.

I guess though, win a few Super Bowls and a World Series and everyone wants to be from New England.
Stick to your plan. When you are close to ready walk in to theealer and ask to order the car exactly like you want. That way you get everything you want and nothing you don't. If that dealer won't special order then run don't walk to the next one and DON't LOOk BACk.
Small Dealer said:
I know that parts of Connecticut don't like to be thought of as New England. New Jersey is a stretch.
Being from NJ, I would never consider myself as from "New England." My best guess is still North East.

Small Dealer said:
But "largest dealer North East" isn't in New Jersey. Most months there isn't even a New Jersey dealer in the top 10.
Like any advertising claim, "largest dealer" can be based on many factors. Most people would assume largest sales volume, which is probably what the dealer hopes will happen. What is he actually basing his claim on? Most cars on the lot, highest number of employees, largest acreage?

Alot of businesses (not limited to car dealers) will make outrageous claims to draw in customers. I'm sure they can come up with some sort of justification if pressed, but I usually take claims of best, largest, etc. with a grain or two of salt.
My financial advisor just called to tell me that while watching the NCAA final game on Monday he saw the Pontiac commercial and the Solstice. He immediately thought of me and wanted to call to wish me good luck ... and to remember to cruise on by after I take delivery of one of the first 1,000! :yesnod:
cupp said:
I understand your pain pyscho squirrel, I would love to have one of the first 1000, but next spring is a much better time to make the purchase. My fear is the dealer greed surcharge will be in full swing for next spring's cars, especially in snow prone areas. I say this because of the treatment I have been fortunate enough to receive at Pontiac dealers. Lied to, ignored completely, one didn't want to unlock the car I wanted to look at, and huge markups on the first GTOs. Why do the Pontiac dealers in Ohio have to be such @#$%^&!? I am frustrated because I like the car so much and am tired of the hassles the closest dealers are giving me.
You must be around Columbus or Cleveland.
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