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Does anyone else have a problem with condensation on the inside of the lens of the fog lamps?

It was chilly on the day we took delivery, so I thought it was just a one time thing. I turned on the fog lamps while we were out showing the new car off, and it seemed to evaporate. The next day it was back and hasn't gone away in a week. Wife is taking it back to dealer today, to see if they can address.

I was just wondering if anyone else had this problem.
 

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GM's Position

Here is GM's position on things like this. This is a general long time policy not Solstice specific. Thought I would throw it up for infoamtion purposes.

GM Policy said:
Some exterior lamps, such as cornering, turn signal, backup, headlamps or tail lamps may exhibit very small droplets of water, a fine mist or white fog (condensation) on the inside of the lamp lens. This may be more noticeable on lamps with "multi-lens" designs and may be normal during certain weather conditions.

Condensation occurs when the air inside the lamp assembly, through atmospheric changes, reaches the "dew point". When this takes place, the moisture in the air within the lamp assembly condenses, creating a fine mist or white fog on the inside surface of the lamp lens.

Most exterior lamps on General Motors vehicles use a vented design and feature a replaceable bulb assembly. They are designed to remove any accumulated moisture vapor by expelling it through a vent system. The vent system operates at all times, however, it is most effective when the lamps are ON or when the vehicle is in motion. Depending on the size, shape and location of the lamp on the vehicle, and the atmospheric conditions occurring, the amount of time required to clear the lamp may vary from 2 to 6 hours.


Condensation

A Fine Mist or White Fog on the Inside Surface of the Lamp Lens Occurring After a Period of High Humidity


• May be located primarily in the lens corners (near the vents) and SHOULD NOT cover more than half the lens surface.

• The condition should clear of moisture when the vehicle is parked in a dry environment, or when the vehicle is driven with the lights ON.

• A comparison of the equivalent lamp on the opposing side of the vehicle indicates a SIMILAR performance.

If the above conditions are noted, the customer should be advised that replacement of a lamp assembly may not correct this condition.

Water Leak

Numerous & Various Size Drops of Water Collecting on the Inside Surface of the Lamp Lens After the Vehicle Has Been Exposed to Rain or a Car Washing Environment


• A condition that covers more than half the surface of the lamp lens.

• An accumulation of water in the bottom of the lamp assembly.

• A condition that WON'T clear when the vehicle is parked in a dry environment, or when the vehicle is driven with the lights ON.

• A comparison of the equivalent lamp on the opposing side of the vehicle indicates a different performance.

Any of the above conditions would indicate the need to service the lens or lamp assembly.
 

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I noticed a very small foggy spot and a few beads of water behind the glass on one of the foglights after I washed the car, but didn't give it much thought since I figured it's not a problem if it only happens when I hose it down.
 

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Mysol was very nice and let me look at his car Sunday and the fog/turn signals had a LOT of water in them. I think he is right in taking it in. It was more than condensation.
 

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Hmm, a fog lamp that's foggy...
 

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Editguy said: Hmm, a fog lamp that's foggy..."

Good one, Edit! :)

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A common culprit here is improper seating of the rubber gasket or o-ring where the bulb socket locks in. I'd check this before wasting a trip to the dealer if it's just light.

However if you have standing water in there, I'd demand everything be replaced or cleaned up. A rusty bulb socket and/or wiring will never get better, only worse.
 

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Dealer agrees and has ordered replacement fixtures.
Should not be big issue.
Just one of the things with a new model.
 

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Good job, MI SOL! Good job, dealer. Good job, Pontiac.

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MI Sol said:
Dealer agrees and has ordered replacement fixtures.
Should not be big issue.
Just one of the things with a new model.
Hope it doesn't take too long to get them. If a couple weeks goes by and they're still waiting, just tell 'em to rip a couple off a Grand Prix in the back. :thumbs:
 
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