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If you've ever had to rewire an English sports car, you might appreciate the irony of this article: http://www.dailynews.com/Stories/0,1413,200~25826~2858305,00.html
British team gives up on electric car speed record

Third strike: British team ends bid to break 300 mph in electric car — because it wouldn't start.

By Paul Foy
Associated Press

SALT LAKE CITY — A British team trying to set a speed record for an electric car gave up Saturday because the mustard-yellow, torpedo-shaped vehicle wouldn't start for a third morning in a row.
They plan to return next year for another try at topping 300 mph.

The 34-foot-long "e=motion" car ran well in England and on a single practice run on a desert highway about 120 miles west of Salt Lake City, but then suffered a series of baffling electrical problems.

"In the end, we realized that whatever it was was not fixable at this particular moment in time so we've abandoned the attempt," driver Mark Newby said Saturday.

Engineers working around the clock were able to start the car in a warm garage, but it shorted out on the test track.

First they blamed a battery problem, then condensation inside a drive controller, which sends battery power to the car's electric motors. On Saturday another problem occurred in the controller unit in the nose of the car.

Newby said he hoped to find out what exactly went wrong when the car is inspected after returning to Great Britain.

"We were all fired up and ready to go," Newby said. "The problem is in the area of one of the circuit boards, but we're not sure exactly what's causing it."

Insurance and the team's permit to use a 7.2-mile stretch of the highway both expired Saturday. They were trying to break the record on a remote stretch of Nevada highway about 40 miles south of West Wendover, Nev., a small casino town just across the Utah state line.

The "e=motion" sponsor, ABB, a Swiss manufacturer of industrial motors and robots, supplied a pair of industrial motors for the car that can briefly turn out 500 horsepower — as much as a 2005 Corvette with a 7-liter, V8 engine.

The electricity to spin the motors came from a set of 52 batteries, which put the vehicle in the more-than-2,200-pound record attempt class.

The current record for an electric car is 245 mph, set by an American team in 1999 using a similarly streamlined car powered by thousands of "AA" batteries. That record, sanctioned by the Federation Internationale de L'Automobile, was set on Utah's nearby Bonneville Salt Flats, which are too wet at this time of year for speed trials.
 

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:glol:

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Third strike: British team ends bid to break 300 mph in electric car — because it wouldn't start.

2 MGBs in my past, I can relate :lol:
 

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Me too!

Also 2 MGB's - 80 & 79 - both nightmares! :brentil: :cool:
 

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Car was proably made by Lucas Electrics,the Prince of Darkness,supplier of vintage Triumph Motorcycles. :willy: :glol: :cool:
 

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A Triumph Spitfire was in my past. Lucas was known in our sports car circle as the Prince of Darkness for all of the electrical systems they designed for british sports cars.
 

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Just delivered my Bugeye that I drove for 37 years to my brother. Solstice is going to replace it.

I only had one problem with Mr. Lucas. Scraped wire shorted out in the boot and caused a minor smoke event under the dash. I covered all of the wiring after that with plastic covers and never saw another.

Take care-Steve

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I have two Triumphs one is a TR-4 and one is GT6 the TR4 is worth 12000.00and the GT6 is worth 5000.00. and I love to drive them. my Solstice will be alot more fun to drive.
 

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I have two Triumphs one is a TR-4 and one is GT6 the TR4 is worth 12000.00and the GT6 is worth 5000.00. and I love to drive them. my Solstice will be alot more fun to drive.
And the Solstice will be more dependable! Have owned a 60 XK 150 and a 71 MG. Both were fun, but required alot of maintenance. Am too old for that anymore.
 

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:smash: :glol: :jester:

Never had the, ah, pleasure of owning a Brittttish car and experiencing first hand the challenges of Lucas electrics. But serveral of my friends have so I can comiserate. I was thinking this very subject today when I saw a Ford Tauras with headlights flickering like xmas lights. Ford must be secretly letting out electrical contracts to Lucas!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

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'54 Autin A40; '56 MG Magnette Sedan; '67 MG Midget

Slow learner, but we were young, enjoyed working on cars

Now too old for that nonesense, just want to have fun
 

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I believe the record is higher than that (272 mph)

The current record for an electric car is 245 mph, set by an American team in 1999 using a similarly streamlined car powered by thousands of "AA" batteries. That record, sanctioned by the Federation Internationale de L'Automobile, was set on Utah's nearby Bonneville Salt Flats, which are too wet at this time of year for speed trials.
I think the AP has got this record wrong. A group of Ohio State stundents beat this record last year (272 mph average). The actually peaked over 300 mph in other runs.

I am sure all you buckeyes will like this. I personally am not a huge OSU fan but I can definitely appreciate what they have done. After all they are college students!!!


http://www.osu.edu/dosomethinggreat/bulletcar
http://www.speedace.info/osu_buckeye_bullet.htm


I learned about this program while my alma mater competed against OSU in a series called Formula Lightning (an open wheel electric race series) for different universities to compete against each other.
 

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Watched an electric car race up Pike's Peak at 120 mph.

Lucas electrics also besides my MG's in an IHC farm tractor. Could not let it sit for over two months without replacing points, condenser, rotor,etc.

Peter Egan had an excellent editorial on Lucas a couple months back in R&T.
 

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I've had a Sunbeam Alpine, three TR-6s and a TR-7. The only electrical trouble I ever had was the voltage reulator got reversed after some idiots tried to steal my Alpine after I left it parked in a bad part of town.

They never actually got away with it because the reason it was parked in a bad part of town was because it was out of gas.

When I returned with gas in a gas can it was gone. They had pushed it two blocks trying to bump start it, unsuccessfully of course.
 

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Well, in 1979 I bought a new Triumph Spitfire which I still own and drive and love very much. (Bought it at Alpine Motors, 1600 East Sunrise Blvd, Ft. Lauderdale). I do all of my own maintenance and other than the Lucas electronic ignition, which I replaced with a different brand early on, I have had none of the "usual problems" people associate with British sports cars. I plan on taking it with me when "that time" comes. :)

Also had:
1960 MGA
1970 MGB
1961 Austin Healey Sprite (my SCCA race car)

I love British Sports cars and I will love my Solstice just as much. :yesnod:
 

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Here's an article by Lucas about the smoke theory. Its a good explanation of british car wiring.

:lol: When rewiring under dash wiring on a TR6, I thought I was finished, gave it a "test" by turning on the iginition and the wires smoked. Pissed off, I asked my boss/mentor what could be wrong. He told me that there is no way that my wiring was going to work because I let all the smoke out of the wires. ;)

My advise to British car owners, carry a fire extinguisher or wire it like a race car.
 
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