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Have you had a waterpump fail on your Solstice? (please also chose NA or GXP as well)

  • No.....don't jinx me!! (I'm under 50,000miles)

    Votes: 45 39.1%
  • No....I'm on borrowed time (I have over 50,000 miles)

    Votes: 20 17.4%
  • Yes (My car had less then 60,000 miles when it happend)

    Votes: 37 32.2%
  • Yes...(My car had between 60,000 and 100,000 miles)

    Votes: 10 8.7%
  • Yes....(My car had over 100,000 when the waterpump failed)

    Votes: 2 1.7%
  • NA - Normally Aspirated

    Votes: 28 24.3%
  • GXP - turbo

    Votes: 47 40.9%

  • Total voters
    115
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Thanks Ghost. I love your posts by the way. I have the Dash Command ap. i think it has a log feature so maybe I'll try that. I just went under the car and I think the front seal is leaking. Even noticed an old oil (dark color) up past the Cat on the back side of the turbo. Does the turbo connect to the oil delivery somehow? (Think so). If so there may be a fitting leak as well.
 

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Thanks Ghost. I love your posts by the way. I have the Dash Command ap. i think it has a log feature so maybe I'll try that. I just went under the car and I think the front seal is leaking. Even noticed an old oil (dark color) up past the Cat on the back side of the turbo. Does the turbo connect to the oil delivery somehow? (Think so). If so there may be a fitting leak as well.
Yes. There is an oil supply to the turbo and a return to the crankcase.

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Thanks Ghost. I love your posts by the way. I have the Dash Command ap. i think it has a log feature so maybe I'll try that. I just went under the car and I think the front seal is leaking. Even noticed an old oil (dark color) up past the Cat on the back side of the turbo. Does the turbo connect to the oil delivery somehow? (Think so). If so there may be a fitting leak as well.
Thanks GodRod.....I was a moderator many moons ago for an online racing sim (my job was 2 fold, moderate the forums and literally be a chief steward for the races and decide what was a "racing incident, and what was avoidable) and while our mods do an awesome job, I get frustrated at times because I can't speak my mind in some cases....Anywho, as Yogi said, there is a feed line and return line, one set for oil, one set for coolant. Are you noticing any clutch slippage? If so, then it would be the rear main seal leaking. But that would only be visable (most of the time) on the bottom side of the motor...
 

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Well its's an automatic. I'm seeing oil on the front of the engine (remember they just replaced the cover second time once for the water pump I assume and a second time for the timing chain) I brought it to the dealers this morning to diagnose the lean condition bank 1 at Idol as well as the oil leak. I do have an extended warranty but this is possibly a "go back"
 

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mine leaked at 25,000 miles

got lucky and had it covered by the extended warranty. happened somewhere in '14, mine is a '07 with 55k on it now...
 

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The original pump on my GXP went recently at 178,000 miles. That's the longest I've ever had a water pump last on any car. It's just a theory, but I think the low mileage cars that fail may be due to sitting out the winter or are only being started up on weekends. Or I was just lucky, which is a very rare occurrence.
 

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Blue...don't do it till it starts leaking. It's expensive!! About $1000. You'll know when it needs to be done because in about 80% of the cases of the low coolant light, it's the WP leaking. SolCal, I'm guessing you're just lucky. But, I'm guessing you drive your car more then 50 miles/day? If so, that plays into the "ball" theory of where the coolant develops balls that are wedged into the seals and cause the WP to leak. But, if you get the car hot enough, the balls actually disappear. Now, before anyone crucifies me for saying this, all of this was discussed in another post.
 
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'06 Sol, replaced @ ~66k. Discovered at time MAF sensor failed. Which was a weird failure to experience at 70mph. :)
 

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ok, Ive read a lot of this...so what are the indacations of wp failure? just like a normal warter cooled car? weep hole weeps or drips or pours? or something else? yes Im new to these gm cars with the pump driven off the chain for some reason...( Im not a gm fan..... at all...with that said I did just sell off my race car to buy this( and buy some other stuff too) it did have a gm part in it...1 gm part. (tall deck bowtie block 572 ci, just the block as gm everything else was after market) car was also set up for my 600+ hp small block mopar, witch also went. Im new to all this fancy stuff, hell I dont even know exzactly what engine is in this thing....other than a ecotech 2.4. I got's lotsa learning to do...my racing dayz are over. so if you see me ask a stupid question....it isant stupid from my stand point, but may be from yours. this is one of the few areas I know squat about. very few areas vehicle related..( Im not up on stock stuff...at all.or newer electronic age cars.)
 

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I have 105k on my NA and 86k on my RL with no failures. Failure interval is extremely random, with no obvious pattern in the small dataset that we have.

There is a lot of speculation about why the failures occur, but the bottom line is that no one knows.
 

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According to this site that I've been using whenever I'm looking for a used car, water pump failure is VERY rare.
www.carcomplaints.com
I really think it is something peculiar to our cars. I have only had to replace one water pump on any car I ever owned and I always put at least 200K on all of them. My sol is still going strong at 37K. I have a spare on the shelf but who knows?, I may never need it.
 

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I really think it is something peculiar to our cars. I have only had to replace one water pump on any car I ever owned and I always put at least 200K on all of them. My sol is still going strong at 37K. I have a spare on the shelf but who knows?, I may never need it.
The EcoTec family as a whole sees very few waterpump failures. My mechanic has never replaced one, in fact. There is some speculation that the longitudinal installation somehow causes failure, and further speculation that the turbocharger does also. I have always suspected that intermittent periods of storage cause problems, but there is no conclusive data to support that.

There have been several "reports" that the replacement pumps last longer than the originals, but I do not know what their basis is, if that is correct it is possible that a bad batch of pumps was supplied to GM when our engines were being assembled.
 

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