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The pic is just a concept, so hopefully they give it more curves, and get rid of the smiling front, "hi I'm the new S2015, wanna be my friend"

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The article is useless fluff!

How about calling it a photoshop of a Solstice GXP for starters?

Check the unchanged rear view mirror and the reflection on the side of the car. Can you say identical?





And, heaven forbid, don't forget the Kia sports car concept from several years ago:

 

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ha, ha, great stuff Dave.
 

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Based on the size dimensions they were given, they should have used a Daihatsu Copen as their photoshopping base. Makes more sense for what Honda is clearly after.

 

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well, I could care less, Im not trading either one of my Solstices. However, it's neat to see how much different the car looks with a different bumper / front. I like the look of the Honda version and if I was going off road, the kia look would grab me. I still say the GXP grill looks the best though.
 

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The pic is just a concept, so hopefully they give it more curves, and get rid of the smiling front, "hi I'm the new S2015, wanna be my friend"

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For general information, the "2000" in Honda S2000 was for the engine displacement not the model year. When they changed the displacement in 2004, they did not change the model name. Below is a pic of my 2000 Honda S2000.


Honda S2000 History


 

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Based on the size dimensions they were given, they should have used a Daihatsu Copen as their photoshopping base. Makes more sense for what Honda is clearly after.

Hmm, a chopped VW bug or a mini TT, not sexy for sure.

well, I could care less, Im not trading either one of my Solstices. However, it's neat to see how much different the car looks with a different bumper / front. I like the look of the Honda version and if I was going off road, the kia look would grab me. I still say the GXP grill looks the best though.
It's nice though to see new, fun models that would hopefully be affordable, and potent, and light.

For general information, the "2000" in Honda S2000 was for the engine displacement not the model year. When they changed the displacement in 2004, they did not change the model name. Below is a pic of my 2000 Honda S2000.


Honda S2000 History


Which vehicle do you like better?

I remember when the Hondas were coming out, those were good power numbers, but it was rediculous how people were paying over MSRP for one, if you could even get one. I remember when Pontiac/Saturn started showing the convertible, wife and I loved the look of the car, and the price was very fair.
 

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It's amazing how many car companies use the Solstice as part of their concept for style, Except GM.
Tauro (I loved the design), Kia (ehh), Honda (is that a built in roll bar with the seats?) and I think there were a couple other smaller companies too. They even had a company that would convert Solstices into electric cars. There seems to be a market for another Kappa platform. Is it that GM doesn't want to hurt the precious sales of the Corvette and re-designed Camaro? Is Chevy the only one of your lines allowed to have true sports cars?

Nissan, Mazda, Subaru, Toyota, even Ford know there is a market for small affordable sports cars and sell them like crazy because GM refuses to build more like kind competition. Ok, they have Camaro but Buick doesn't. Buick, what do you have? Even your other sister company Cadillac has the CTS. What is Cadillac doing? Marketing a sportier crowd. Come on Buick, get back in the game. You have nothing but 4 door cars. You added Shaq to make your car more hip but you need more hip in your line. Add a sports car to your line. Call it the F-88 and sell them in gold or the F-CVT (F^&% Corvette, for ruining your F-88 chances).

Sales dwindled because the economy tanked right at the wrong time. Not that the market didn't want our cars. If the over priced Corvette can survive so should have the Kappa line (more reasonable). GM, you let other companies get your buzz off of your concepts. Buick, make the concept, heck its mostly there for you. Do you really want Honda to redesign and take away market share of sports cars with this? I bet it will be cheaper than a Corvette!


GM, you can still have your high end sports model but capture more of the market away from competitors. Pontiac and Saturn did that for you. They took from Miata's, Z's and Mustangs. People want variety and the Camaro doesn't do it for all. I'll get off the soap box now but I'd love to see a new F88 roll into the market under the Kappa platform. Lets photoshop a design for them.
 

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Which vehicle do you like better?

I remember when the Hondas were coming out, those were good power numbers, but it was rediculous how people were paying over MSRP for one, if you could even get one. I remember when Pontiac/Saturn started showing the convertible, wife and I loved the look of the car, and the price was very fair.
I had a 2000 Honda S2000 and currently have a 2007 Sky Redline. The S2000 handled a little better but was gutless until you hit 6000 + rpm. The max torque was 153 ft/lbs at 7500 rpms and 240hp at 8300 rpms. The quality of materials and fit & finish were superior in the S2000, but I prefer my Sky due to the larger interior (I am 6'1"), overall size and more powerful motor. Here is a pic I found on the net showing the two cars together:

 

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I had a 2002 S2000. The 02s got a glass rear window instead of plastic and better center armrest cover. I agree that it was a touch slow until over 6k. Very little tire spin even when trying due to sticky tires and low torque. All S2000s are manuals. I had a tuned manual GXP and now an auto and enjoy the GXPs much more. The power top was cool but the top down look is better on the sky/sols as the top is completely hidden whereas the S had a cover to hide the top. The S 6speed was better except for the 2nd gear grind that occurred to frequently. MPGs are very similar. I liked the digital dash on the S better. The S handled better stock, but very close to the Sol with the pro beam, front brace and backbone.
 

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Agreed Pontiac and saturn should have maybe combined? Removing them entirely left a big hole in the GM line up. Even now with the cobalt being gone, what " cheap" 2 door car does GM offer? screw the spark and the sonic. What GM needs is something to compete with the Focus ST, Veloster Turbo, Impreza WRX, and yes even the next generation Miata. If i didn't get this car, i Cobalt SS was the next option. I'm not asking for a 300 hp fwd / awd, or even rwd monster. Just give us a Convertible Sports car on the Kappa Platform. I was a huge GM supported, but i don't see a new car that i would purchase. If anything i would have to search for a low milage older GM vehicle. It's upsetting. The corvette and the Camaro are both " flagships" but they are literally telling customers to buy other manufacturer cars. I took my fiance' car shopping, and they told me to check out the genesis for her..... with that being said we left the dealer without making a purchase.
 

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You should at least drove the Genesis coupe V6 2013 with 348 BHP.
Is not bad looking.
Let's see what happens with the sales of the 2014 Vette in the next 6 to 10 months.
If they start to go soft maybe GM will go back and resurrect something similar to our Solstice.
 

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Hi there!

At work I park next to a 1995 Miata and an S2000 (not sure what year). The S2000 is a good looking car. I've never driven one but I would imagine it's a nice car. Strangely I've never seen the one at work with the top down.

There's also a 350Z convertible at work. I don't like that car very much with the top up, but it does look a lot better with the top down than the coupe version.
 

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Agreed Pontiac and saturn should have maybe combined? Removing them entirely left a big hole in the GM line up. Even now with the cobalt being gone, what " cheap" 2 door car does GM offer? screw the spark and the sonic. What GM needs is something to compete with the Focus ST, Veloster Turbo, Impreza WRX, and yes even the next generation Miata. If i didn't get this car, i Cobalt SS was the next option. I'm not asking for a 300 hp fwd / awd, or even rwd monster. Just give us a Convertible Sports car on the Kappa Platform. I was a huge GM supported, but i don't see a new car that i would purchase. If anything i would have to search for a low milage older GM vehicle. It's upsetting. The corvette and the Camaro are both " flagships" but they are literally telling customers to buy other manufacturer cars. I took my fiance' car shopping, and they told me to check out the genesis for her..... with that being said we left the dealer without making a purchase.
Combined to sell what? A small sports car should be offered by GM, but GM doesn't need Pontiac or Saturn to do that.

You should at least drove the Genesis coupe V6 2013 with 348 BHP.
Is not bad looking.
Let's see what happens with the sales of the 2014 Vette in the next 6 to 10 months.
If they start to go soft maybe GM will go back and resurrect something similar to our Solstice.
The Genesis R spec is pretty potent, I just can't see my money going to Hyundai, but it is nice.

I think Vette sales will be good. This still shouldn't impact an entry level sports coupe like the Solstice/Sky. They really don't compete if you keep the concept intact and keep the Sol/Sky entry about $20k less.
 
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