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any one have a favorite? I will need to get one. I read a review that put the Beltronics RX65 and the Escort 8500 X50 at the top of the list. Any thoughts? Thanks!
 

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V1 all the way.
 

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valentine one if you got the cash.
No doubt the Valentine is a great product, but I don't like the idea of carrying something that expensive in my convertible. Convenience is a big factor for me and I want to be able to run into a store for a few minutes and maybe just stick my detector under the seat or something when the top is down. I do this all the time now and have never had a problem, but I wouldn't want to try that with a $300 unit. I have a $60 Cobra radar detector that I picked up on a sale for $30. (It picks up speed traps with plenty of warning for me and if cops have instant-on, the radar detector won't make a difference.) And if somebody snags it sometime, I'll just pick up another. I also don't want to encourage any would-be thieves. One time, I forgot my detector on my dash (another cheapie) when I locked up to go see a movie and came out to find my top slashed and all they did was grab that. It really sucked to have a $1000 repair for something that cost me less than $50 brand new and was probably worth about $10 on the street ... wish I would have just left the top down that time too. At any rate, I do occasionally foget a dash-mount detector on the dash and I think a Valentine sitting there would be that much more tempting of a target.

One thing I would like to know more about are the integrated units that have an external sensor (that usually mounts behind the front grill) and an internal monitor that can be mounted anywhere out of sight. I would be much more comfortable having something like that which is not obvious and can't be easily grabbed. Anybody have any good recommendations?
 

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One thing I would like to know more about are the integrated units that have an external sensor (that usually mounts behind the front grill) and an internal monitor that can be mounted anywhere out of sight. I would be much more comfortable having something like that which is not obvious and can't be easily grabbed. Anybody have any good recommendations?
The integrated detectors are pretty slick, but there are two major drawbacks to them:


1) One is that for full coverage you need two receivers. They have to be mounted one each front and rear.There are certain circumstances where they will both pick up the radar, but the signals will get to the receiver timed in such a manner as to cause total destructive interferance, and the receiver will see no radar. (or something like that. I can't remember exactly how the scenario runs, but I do recall reading an article to that effect)

2) For the best detection range over hills, you want the detector's antenna mounted as high as possible. You really reduce your line of sight with the sensors way down in the bumper as opposed to up near the rearview mirror.
 

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I'm not very concerned about a rear sensor on an integrated unit. In my experience, it's pretty rare for cops to clock you from behind. Sure, it's possible, but not likely enough for me to concern myself with it. If they're behind, they can just pace you to determine your speed. Or else I've just passed them and would have slowed down already. At any rate, I know there's no sure way to avoid a ticket ... mainly just looking to get a heads-up at speed traps. And living in Florida, I can't even remember the last time I drove over hills :) so that doesn't really concern me. All in all, I think I like the trade-offs on the integrated ones for my uses. Anybody know any decent models and how much I should expect to pay?
 

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pwr66569 said:
I'm not very concerned about a rear sensor on an integrated unit. In my experience, it's pretty rare for cops to clock you from behind. Sure, it's possible, but not likely enough for me to concern myself with it. If they're behind, they can just pace you to determine your speed. Or else I've just passed them and would have slowed down already. At any rate, I know there's no sure way to avoid a ticket ... mainly just looking to get a heads-up at speed traps. And living in Florida, I can't even remember the last time I drove over hills :) so that doesn't really concern me. All in all, I think I like the trade-offs on the integrated ones for my uses. Anybody know any decent models and how much I should expect to pay?
ACTUALLY, it is becoming a common tactic for cops to use radar to clock speeders from behind. Most radar units don't have a rear sensor, so this is an effective tactic. And there's no need to try and match your speed. They can get you from a few hundred feet off. I have read several articles about this very behavior, including one gentlemen who was travelling in a pack of cars when they got clocked form behind. He had a V1. Another poor slob did not, and he got nailed. Also, having two sensors can help tell you whether or not you've already passed the speed-trap or if it's still ahead of you. If you're really worried about your V1 taking a walk, get the optional carrying case or put it in your pocket when you leave the car.
 

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Actually, it seems most of the units I see these days brag about 360 degree protection. But I'm not real concerned about that so far. If I'm stupid enough to pass a speed trap without slowing down, I deserve the ticket. In my state, there's no unmanned stealth traps at least. And I usually slow down around overpasses and the like where cops may hide anyway because I got nailed one time by cops manually timing cars from above (VASCAR). In the last ten years, I've probably been pulled over about 40 times and not once was I clocked from behind. Probably about 30 speeding stops by head-on radar (mostly instant-on without enough time to slow), 3 or 4 stops being paced from behind and the rest rolling stops and such. Luckily, I've managed to get out of tickets about half the time.

As far as the carrying case thing, I think I'm way more likely to lose it that way than leaving it sit in the car. I tend to sit something down and forget it if it's not attached to me. Just more hassle for me to try and remember to bring it. Would probably make good sense for somebody a little more organized though.
 

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pwr66569 said:
...And if somebody snags it sometime, I'll just pick up another. I also don't want to encourage any would-be thieves. One time, I forgot my detector on my dash (another cheapie) when I locked up to go see a movie and came out to find my top slashed and all they did was grab that. It really sucked to have a $1000 repair for something that cost me less than $50 brand new and was probably worth about $10 on the street ... wish I would have just left the top down that time too. At any rate, I do occasionally foget a dash-mount detector on the dash and I think a Valentine sitting there would be that much more tempting of a target.
the trunk might be big enough to fit it! :lol:
 

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Radar is going away . . Lidar is the new standard

For those of you who are considering buying a "radar" detector, please understand that all police agencies are moving away from "radar" and going to the Laser Technology, also known as "Lidar." Your radar detector will not even see the laser beam until it is too late. The laser beam is only about 18" wide at 1000 ft, and they can pick you out from a group of cars at 750' with their eyese closed. Why not just save the money and slow down a bit?
 

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For those of you who are considering buying a "radar" detector, please understand that all police agencies are moving away from "radar" and going to the Laser Technology, also known as "Lidar." Your radar detector will not even see the laser beam until it is too late. The laser beam is only about 18" wide at 1000 ft, and they can pick you out from a group of cars at 750' with their eyese closed. Why not just save the money and slow down a bit?
that is very true. ive spoken with a few officers that i have as friends and they are all saying that is what they have been using. the only downside is that the laser gun must be used while the officer is standing still. they dont use it while driving in the opposite direction as you, or behind you, so you have that consolation.

and in real life, when the cop uses the laser beam, the laser easily goes through the windshield of the car in front of you or reflect off the side of the vehicle in front of you. with the limited information that i have i figure youve got a brief warning about half the time

however, you do have good advise.... just slow down.

but if you cant or dont want to:

1) obviousely slow down around turns, overpasses, entrance/exit ramps, clusters of bushes close to the road, back in darkened parking lots... etc.
2)slow down while passing other vehicles.... two reasons. they may call the cops on you (had it done before) and you wont draw the cops attention as much if you are doing your passing slower.
3) watch the cars that are ahead of you. if you see them braking, you brake too. i cant tell you how many times that saved me. its like having another set of eyes a quarter mile ahead of you.
4) dont use the fast/passing lane unless you need to. cops tend to clock cars that are using the faster lanes
5) if traffic allows, leave space between you and the car in front of you, while making sure that someone is keeping pace behind you. if there are a bunch of cars all speeding, the cop genreally tends to pull over whoever is easiest, which is almost always the car in back. people often make the mistake of folloing someone who is going fast, thinking that the cop will pull over the first guy. ive seen it happen the other way so many times, i lost count. the cop will see the first guy, then see you, and will pull you over because you are closer.

summed up:

dont be easy prey for the cop. pay attention, and if you are driving fast, at least be safe about it.
 
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