[R&T]

Yesterday while changing the oil I noticed there was a place to the inside of the actual lifting point that looks like it could be used with a jack to raise the car. It looks like a gusset with two holes drilled through, I assume this is where they would hook a chain to straighten out the frame if it was ever bent. Might be 3-4 inches towards the center of the car from the actual lift point. Reason I ask is I hate resting the car on the jack stands using the A-arm. May I ask how you guys raise the car and are able to get the jack stands where the lifting points are?

 

[blackbirdracing]

I put the jack stands where the control arms mount to the subframe.

 

[TX08manualGXP]

since I have been working on the 06, I have been using the oval slots on the frame. My floor jack is flat and I lay an 11/16 socket on the jack and position it where it fits into the slot and up we go. works like a charm.

 

[R&T]

Thanks guys, I too raise it up right next to the quarter panels and place jack stands under the control arms(someone had posted pics, Tomato maybe) but I hate having the weight on the control arms, plus the stands don't fit exactly to the control arm and hit the lip which I hate also. I was thinking the area inside the lift points would work but I don't want to put a jack stand through the floor board.

TX08, where are these slots on the frame you are talking about? Are they the same thing I am mentioning or somewhere else? The area I am talking about sit farther inside towards the center of the car and there are two holes in them, not right next to the quarter panel. I only saw them in the front because I didn't look at the back, they could be back there but I don't know.

 

[TX08manualGXP]

well, after loosening and adjusting the cam bolts on the control arms, I will never put jack stands there. the weight of the car could allow it to move just a little and then there goes your alignment. I think the slots I use is where you are supposed to lift the car with the pucks. they are about 1.5' from the edge of the wheel wells. I have used the area you are talking about but it's not that strong and one of mine is bent in. I use the slots to lift and place my jack stand on the thing with the 2 holes and use a 4x4 block of oak flooring to distribute the weight. I took some photo's when I did it and will post them after lunch.

 

[blackbirdracing]

There is a metal box that the control arms mount into. This is where I was saying i lift from, not the actual control arm.

 

[R&T]

Oh, ok blackbirdracing, I'll look again when I have to lift the car. I also thought about the block of wood on top of the jack stand to distribute the weight. Your concern is the one I had about alignment. Having that weight on the control arm can't be good even if it is only once a year.

Thanks for taking pics, I would like to see them when you get a chance.

 

[DaveOC]

Once again, I will attach two pages from the Service Manual, showing where GM recommends that a jack be used on our vehicle. Pic #3 shows the GM recommended lift points in use, and pic #4 shows the jack stand locations used by most of the vendors that are active on this forum.

If you don't like these recommendations, you can do it your way, personally I don't care. When I lift my car, I use the GM recommended locations.

Done, 'Nuf said.

 

[R&T]

DaveOC, sorry, you were the one that posted the pics a few years back. I tried looking for them but to no avail. So you can use the metal with the two holes in it to rest on the jack stands. I will probably lift the car where the pucks are suppose to go next to the quarter panels and then rest the car where the lift you are on has his pads. The last pic, does the stands you use rest underneath the control arm or is there a plate there?

 

[DaveOC]

DaveOC, sorry, you were the one that posted the pics a few years back. I tried looking for them but to no avail. So you can use the metal with the two holes in it to rest on the jack stands. I will probably lift the car where the pucks are suppose to go next to the quarter panels and then rest the car where the lift you are on has his pads. The last pic, does the stands you use rest underneath the control arm or is there a plate there?

FWIW, the car in the last picture is Marvic1's Sky. There is a plate underneath the control arm where those jack stands are located. I always use a piece of scrap lumber between my stands or jack and the lifting point, it spreads the load a bit and prevents the eventual distortion of the place you are using as a lift point.

 

[TX08manualGXP]

well, I thought you used the 3 oval slots to LIFT the car and then you placed your jack stands on the others. if you are just lifting one wheel then by all means, the manual is the way to go. Here's my quick fix. I'll make somethingbetter later.


someone has already done it without the puck


socket on the jack


in position


up we go.

 

[rob the elder]

http://www.solsticeforum.com/forum/f11/addressing-problems-lifting-kappa-name-part-73855/

There are a lot of challenges with the lift points on the cars. In my case, the lift points are severly deformed. I have been working with Doctor Dave to get him to build / sell reinforcement for the forward lift points.

The slots in the frame are the ocean shipping hard points designed into the frame. There are four slots. I did a lot of research and to the best of my knowledge these are the ONLY hard points on the bottom of the car. I only lift by these points and I use J hooks to tie the car down when on the trailer.

http://www.solsticeforum.com/forum/f17/jacking-pucks-69616/

http://www.solsticeforum.com/forum/f11/jacking-pucks-solstice-sky-37642/

 

[TX08manualGXP]

I bet I can get a 6" length of 1/2 in rod stock and cut it into 1.5" pieces and weld it onto a 2/3 or so 3/8" plate and then I'd have a full set. I already have a 1 sq ft plate so I'm half way there.

 

[Seltzinator]

I bet I can get a 6" length of 1/2 in rod stock and cut it into 1.5" pieces and weld it onto a 2/3 or so 3/8" plate and then I'd have a full set. I already have a 1 sq ft plate so I'm half way there.

You don't think there's any chance that either the slots or the rods will deform over time and eventually slip through, banging the body down on your stands?

 

[rob the elder]

The slot is designed to have tie down straps pulling on it, not specifically for vertical lifting loads. Personally I use a hockey puck when lifting and have found they perform very well. They spread the load evenly across the area around the slot and since they are flexible, they do a good job of avoiding point loads.

 

[TX08manualGXP]

I forgot about the hockey puck. those things are probably perfect and tough as nails.

and no, it that's what the puck is made for so as long as I duplicate the design then there should be no problems.