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I am all for an event in upstate New York. The Finger Lakes and Watkins Glen would be a great location, but if you do your exploration on FB you'll be doing it without me.

I do urge you to explore quickly. Even with last year's experience I do not want to do another fast-track plan.
I'm on the planning committee's for both 2019 and 2020. Both are a go. Yes there are "secret" FB groups doing the planning - by invitation only. :grin:
 

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2019 information (following an unwritten protocol) will be published at the conclusion of 2018

or at best a date and location may leak out before then, (but not by our Operating committee)
 

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Speaking as a former event organizer, I do not find threads and/or posts asking about and confirming the existence of future events to be a problem for the current event. People want to know what the future brings and letting them know that something is going to happen and telling them where it is going to be is perfectly reasonable.

That said, continuous posts about what activities are planned, how things are going to work, and how great it is going to be, do detract from the current event and should be avoided by the future event planners as a courtesy to the current event team.
 

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Bringing this to the top:

The demographics for Kappa ownership is not evenly split at the Mississippi river.

There are clusters at most major cities

Without starting a firestorm......the larger urban areas are on the west Coast...the Eastern Seaboard
and the Great Lakes. Surprisingly the eastern Gulf states do not appear to have a large contingent.

When I took upon the quest for 2019 I wanted to make sure we included the Canadians too.
I looked at Lake George first, but it is overwhelming crowded and expensive in the summer.

Corning/Binghamton had a lot to offer.

Demographically speaking most KO's (Kappa owners) will drive one long day to get the a National Event.
Based on that we concluded that Eastern Canada (Ont Quebec and the Maritimes ) would be well represented,
as would New England. In spite of MM we also believed we would attract people from the Carolinas, VA, MD, PA, OHIO
Mich. NY NJ KY etc,. Based on that we had to choose a hotel that would support 150 KO's and btw the reason we moved
the date up a week is because a glaziers convention had already booked our week ahead of us in FEB 2018 !!! for June 2019

People who whine that Wisc. or the UP would be great fail to realize 2 things 1) finding hotels and convention centers
able to handle 150 cars is difficult at best...2) summer vacation travel raises costs and huge traffic jams create
KO route headaches. Hotels in vacation spots jack up prices exponentially and we needed to keep the nightly rate BELOW $150.00

I've heard people say ...what about Idaho, Montana Santa Fe or Vermont. Well the big thing is...the roads may be great but
who are the local KO's to organize it.....Right...there aren't any

Before you go criticizing the location ask yourself this.....Have I ever volunteered as an organizer? What support have I personally given to a NASSAM? It takes a HUGE amount of work to make this a success. Fully 75% of our Operating Committee are people
who have already run a NASSAM.....yes ...seasoned veterans who know what it takes and what you have to give. It is hard to recruit new talent. People love to attend, but few will step up.

Be happy there is a 2019 and a 2020....let's see who steps up for 2021 !!!
 
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