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Just wondering are they going to have oil filter available. And whats average cost. I have a Avalanche 03 with 300,000 miles and i keep it up.
 

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The 2.2 ecotec in my 2004 Cavalier and the 2.4 in my 2009 Malibu takes the same filter as my 2008 Solstice GXP so the filter won't be an issue. Cost, I wouldn't know 'cause I change my own. Same cost as any other car that takes full synthetic.

Make sure that they use full syntheticif you choose to take it somewhere.
 

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If your local GM dealer does oil change specials, why not bring your car to them? I get coupons in the mail at least every 60 days from mine.
 

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I wouldn't let Jiffy Lube or Grease Monkey touch my GXP. One of those guys strip the plastic filter cap, over-tighten the cap, or not replace the seal, I would be completely pissed due to the damage risk. Plus I run the preferred Mobil1 full synthetic 5W-30. Jiffy Lube doesn't sell Mobil1.
 

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If your local GM dealer does oil change specials, why not bring your car to them? I get coupons in the mail at least every 60 days from mine.
But where ever you take it make sure you check your fenders before you leave... :devil:
 

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why check fenders?
 

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Agree with what is said here. Also a couple of other things. I may have this reversed but you should not close the hood with the doors open and never have the wipers up when closing the hood. Both can make contact with the hood.

With lube places they try do do a bunch of things at once by several people, making the process prone to failure. My first one was at Jiffy Lube and they knew about the door open when closing the hood thing and they have a pit and don't lift cars so I was not worried about fenders as others mention. But they do not sell Mobil 1 and instead use some synthetic Penzoil. Next time I was able to buy a decent torque wrench and jumbo socket to do my own for less money. Heck the filter is on top of the engine! Easy Peasy.


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I wouldn't take my worst enemies car to jiffy lube. I worked at one for three months when I as 18 and hated it. They don't care if your car takes this or that, if they can sell it to you, they will. Not to mention, the one across the street from us is always trying to pawn off broken sh*t on us and charges 1.99 more than us for a LOF on ``crazy tuesday``.

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Mobil 1 is Full synthetic just like the Penzoil is Full synthetic, what does that mean? It's a marketing term because neither one is 100% synthetic or don't you think they would say that. The API says that any oil that is over 67% synthetic can be called Full synthetic, but only in the US. Isn't marketing great. Get a 100% synthetic oil like Royal Purple, Amzoil, Red Line or Bel-Ray and find a decent small shop or do it your self. GM dealers have smashed more fenders than anyone.
 

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I am already worried!
 

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If you can't stay with the car, inspect the fenders with the service writer before the work begins and check the fenders again when the work is complete.
 

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Mobil 1 is Full synthetic just like the Penzoil is Full synthetic, what does that mean? It's a marketing term because neither one is 100% synthetic or don't you think they would say that. The API says that any oil that is over 67% synthetic can be called Full synthetic, but only in the US. Isn't marketing great. Get a 100% synthetic oil like Royal Purple, Amzoil, Red Line or Bel-Ray and find a decent small shop or do it your self. GM dealers have smashed more fenders than anyone.
Hmmm, according to this (and other things I've read) even "100% Synthetic" doesn't mean full PAO base stock. Interesting reading: Finally we have the truth about synthetic oil. | Habot Marketing (Pty) Ltd
 

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Uh oh, it appears this thread evolving to another oil brand, type, weight, formula, opinion -discussion. I need to go get some popcorn, kick back and watch the fur fly (again). Please..carry on!
 

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I always change my own. I need to go get some ramps so I can do the Solstice though. And I use Mobil1 in all our cars. Had great success with it, so why change?
 

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I've had "factory trained technicians" at a dealership screw up an oil change! A quick lube place for my Solstice.

Uh uh. Ain't never gonna happen.

I can do it myself and know that I got it done right.
 

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Thanks for the links, lg and TS! I always welcome an opportunity to learn more. Now, where's Chemist?! This can get down into molecule lengths and diameters and filtration/processing of base stock oils and original development of true synthetic to satisfy milspec requirements! We now enter the arena of Ad Men who have to sell a product to a largely ignorant audience that just wants to be told "What's the Best Stuff?": or "What's the cheapest Stuff that will get me through warranty period?" [No reflection on anyone in the forum].

So what will I do. Keep on keepin'n on. Fully Synthetic [67% synthetic {highly processed mineral?}] but least expensive oil I can find and change it once a year unless my mileage exceeds 10000. ( I'm out from under warranty protection):lurk:
 
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