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WARNING: The following post is not intended for members living in CA, OK, MN, VA, NE or Washington DC, so please close you eye's or disregard.

I'm not sure about the rest of you, but I can't live without my radar detector (a Valentine 1 by the way). In the Solstice I've noticed that the power outlet is not in a place condusive to radar wires. The wire would go right in front of the main part of the dash which would be in the way all the time. So I'm thinking the only way to go is to run a hard wire to your favorite location on the dash or window (I prefer high on the window next to the rear view mirror). [Please note: since this is my wife's car and she CAN live without a detector, I seriously doubt she's going to let me do any hard wiring].

Does anyone have a thought on how hard wiring would be best accomplished in the Solstice, or do we need to wait until more people have cars to experiment on?

PS. Wouldn't it be nice if car makers thought about us radar detector people when designing the dash?
 

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I'm going to order a remote detector to mount in the grill. I put one in my 86 Monti SS and love it. Your hardwire it in and the control panel which is about a 1.5"X 3" mounts under the dash just right of your steering column. It cant be seen from the driver's side window.
 

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Law?

Then there are the rest of us who actually believe the roads were designed to be safe at a certain limit. I travel the interstate every day and what I see piled up on the roadside will make you think twice if it is worth getting to wherever 3 minutes sooner. But the worst offenders I see are the moms(some with kids in the car) with the cell phone in their ear and they don't even know that the car came equipped with mirrors and a speedometer. But go speed thru their nieghborhood and see how fast they scream. Red light runners are the worst. They have to save that 1 minute just to get to the next red light. Think about that next time you speed - when you get to the red light see how many people you passed catch up to you at the light. Tickets here start at around $175 and I don't need to be there at that price that fast. :cool:
 

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Speed

I agree that driving distracted is the major cause of accidents. Speed alone is not unless you are being reckless. On the interstates here in AL, if the conditions warrant it, I will drive 80-90 mph. By warrant it, I mean traffic spread out and plenty of distance between cars.
 

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Then there are those of us who live in the real world, outside of Fla. Up here in WV there are great expanses of interstate that become abandoned on a regular basis to the point where you can go 50 miles without seeing another car after the work crowd has made it home. Many of these roads have ridiculously low speed limits based solely on the local authorities need to raise revenue for the local constabulatory. Southern WV being a prime example. I79 runs at a 70mph speed limit through the northern half of the state, yet the same interstate, with the same number of lanes and same standards applied to the construction, goes to 55mph in the south where the population is ridiculously low, so the police "hunt" the interstate for speeders to make money. These are the kind of roads where I would use a radar detector. If I lived in Fl I might feel the same way as you, but up here in podunk, bumfukt, and yonder it's fair game against the "local tax collectors".

As a note, I don't own a radar detector at this time. But if I did, I'd save up for a V1.

On topic, it's usually a lot easier to stealth mount/hard mount radar detectors than you might think. If you own a set of screwdrivers, a torx wrench of the appropriate size, and maybe a dremel, it should be pretty easy. I've seen web pages giving write ups on the process, and IIRC telephone line is a popular method of running power to the device. But, that may be something that is specific to the model of the device you are using.
 

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brian carpenter said:
Then there are the rest of us who actually believe the roads were designed to be safe at a certain limit. I travel the interstate every day and what I see piled up on the roadside will make you think twice if it is worth getting to wherever 3 minutes sooner. But the worst offenders I see are the moms(some with kids in the car) with the cell phone in their ear and they don't even know that the car came equipped with mirrors and a speedometer. But go speed thru their nieghborhood and see how fast they scream. Red light runners are the worst. They have to save that 1 minute just to get to the next red light. Think about that next time you speed - when you get to the red light see how many people you passed catch up to you at the light. Tickets here start at around $175 and I don't need to be there at that price that fast. :cool:
My heart bleeds for you. Not. So move to a state where they are illegal. And, if you don't mind, this thread was for "installing a radar detector in the Solstice," not your political view points on automotive law and your higher morality. If you want to talk about that, start a new thread called "Speeding Is Evil, by Brian Carpenter Nader." Thanks.

Just to feed your thirst: I also travel the interstate everyday. I hate to inform you, but the least amount of accidents take place on the interstate. It is considered the safest place to drive. That's why many driver's Ed teachers take their students their on day 1. Granted, when accidents do happen on the highway they are usually the most serious. While many people say speeding is the main reason for accidents, I disagree. The main reason is something that no one ever mentions in public or on public forums because it isn't politically correct. The main reason is that many people are just bad drivers. Whether it be a lack of physical dexterity, lack of mental concentration abilities, or just a lack of consideration for others, many many people are just incapable of being good drivers. Contrary to common belief, "Speed" does not kill.
 

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brian carpenter said:
Then there are the rest of us who actually believe the roads were designed to be safe...
Maybe, but the last two tickets I got were 5 over (and both times my clocked speed was +7-mph) and each cost more than $100. Which is Bull$hit (especially the 42 in a 35 / mid-day / No trafic - but first of the month :cuss: ).

For most of the police agencies - its all just a source of revenue. I live on a main, residential road - 25-mph. EVERY SINGLE DAY I see cars going at least +20-mph past my house, but unless its early in the month (or someone does a lot of bitching) you rarely see any enforcement.
 

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Soldstice 41505 said:
I plan on purchasing a Solo2, cordless detector by Escort.
Don't do it. I've been down the road of lesser detectors, waisting a bunch of money doing it, and the Valentine 1 is the only one worth buying. It's so good I leave it in "Low" sensitivity mode (false alarm cancelation mode) all the time, no matter where I am. And as Car & Driver has said numberous times, "once you live with the arrows, you'll never be able to live without them."
 
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I have had a radar detector in my truck for quite some time. The best option if you can afford it is a valentine 1 hard wired in. Radar detectors are great, but can be an eyesore of sorts with the wiring running in front of the dash.
 

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Also, for you anti-radar detector folks, you always think of speeding on the highway as the only use for a detector. I actually have found that lower speed local roads around my house are the most useful places for the device. Cops ticket people going 5 mph over 35 just to make money, not because of safety issues.
 

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They're illegal in CA now? Bummer. Maybe I'll take my V1 down when I pass cops. I honestly had no idea. I thought it was just VA, DC, and most of Canada.

I have mine hard-wired through the rearview mirror in my Saturn. I'll do the same thing in the Solstice. All I did was get a phone jack splitter from radio shack, reversed the wiring inside of it, and flush-mounted that piece into my rearview mirror housing. V1 uses RJ-11 recepticals (phone jacks), so I just made custom-legnth cords for a clean install. I hang the detector on the windshield right behind/under the rearview mirror, and plug the pigtail into the back of the mirror.

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Phew! I think we're safe in CA... as well as the other states I didn't mention:

http://www.afn.org/~afn09444/scanlaws/radar4.html
 

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They're illegal in CA now? Bummer. Maybe I'll take my V1 down when I pass cops. I honestly had no idea. I thought it was just VA, DC, and most of Canada.

I have mine hard-wired through the rearview mirror in my Saturn. I'll do the same thing in the Solstice. All I did was get a phone jack splitter from radio shack, reversed the wiring inside of it, and flush-mounted that piece into my rearview mirror housing. V1 uses RJ-11 recepticals (phone jacks), so I just made custom-legnth cords for a clean install. I hang the detector on the windshield right behind/under the rearview mirror, and plug the pigtail into the back of the mirror.

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Phew! I think we're safe in CA... as well as the other states I didn't mention:

http://www.afn.org/~afn09444/scanlaws/radar4.html
The only place a radar detector is "illegal" per-se is Virginia. However, many states have stealth-laws against radar detectors that make it illegal to have anything mounted to your rear-view mirror or mounted to your winshield other than the mirror. Thus, if you have your detector window-mounted, they can nail you, but they can't do anything about detectors on your visor or built into the car under the hood. Most of the time, the cops don't care, but if you run into a jerk, he can nail you for ANYTHING mounted to the window including those navigation systems or cell-holders.
 

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Well, as to which states it's illegal in, there must be some misunderstandings or details not everyone knows. I went to Radardetectorsonline and they say it's illegal in all the states I mentioned. A radio comercial I used to hear all the time said the same thing. Escort, Bell and the other site mentioned on above post say only Virginia and Washington, and almost all of Canada. So maybe Radar "Detectors" are only illegal in VA and DC, but jammers and the like are illegal in all 6 areas I mentioned??? Don't know, but the less states the better, so I vote for VA and DC only!!! :yesnod:

And sorry for all you cannucks!!!! :(
 

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My heart bleeds for you. Not. So move to a state where they are illegal. And, if you don't mind, this thread was for "installing a radar detector in the Solstice," not your political view points on automotive law and your higher morality. If you want to talk about that, start a new thread called "Speeding Is Evil, by Brian Carpenter Nader." Thanks.

Well then next time mark it such or you will get all kinds of replies. And speed does kill, by going faster than the limit you double the risk of one of those "bad drivers" changing lanes in front of you. You hit them it's your fault and someone needlessly gets hurt because you want to be somewhere sooner. Leave earlier. Florida has more than it's share of drivers with reduced capabilities behind the wheel and if you ride a motorcycle the only thing you assume is that they do not see you. And most of the troopers here now use the trigger radar that won't set off your detector until you have been tagged. I don't see how people want to be selective law abiders. If it works in your favor it's ok, but if the law limits your personal freedoms than it is not worth obeying. We could all rob stores as long as we don't shoot anybody. If it is a law on the books you will not beat it in court. If you don't like it work to change it. :cool:
 

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I have used a radar detector for years. I just like toys, and having grown up in Calfornia learnign to spot CHP before detectors, I really don't need it to avoid tickets..I don't get them. My most common detector hit is the local Lowes ..

That being said, I like clipping mine to the passenger visor. I then wire it into the courtesy lamp, since I don't like wires. That has worked well on my MR2. Looking at the Solstice, I saw that there are reading lamps in the rear view mirror. I will look at that as a power source.
 

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Looking at the Solstice, I saw that there are reading lamps in the rear view mirror. I will look at that as a power source.
Good idea! Now that's what I was looking for by starting this thread.
 

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I am a retired cop. The speed limits are set to protect you and others whats the hurry.
I think stiffer requirements on Driver's Ed, raising the legal age to 18, making people over the age of 75 test more frequently, and making drunk driving laws tougher (like in Europe, get caught once, license gone for life, no questions) are the real answers. Lowering a speed limit is just a band aid, not a fix.

Remember, driving a car is not a right, it's a privelege.

And like I said, my main use for my radar is for around town on roads with speed limits like 35 mph. I don't know about your area, but here in Ohio those limits are too low for the types of streets they are on. So going 42-45 is totally natural and perfectly safe. The detector is simply to keep the cops from making too much money for new laser radar guns! :lol:
 
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