I watch for them and they do not appear very often. I bought the last one off of Craigs list and the guy would not take paypal. I paid 515.00 for it plus shipping. He would not refund my money. It arrived like it had been rolled in a dryer for a month. Just really beat up with paint chipped off of it. nothing structural broken or damaged, just looked like junk. Was very hard to get the original paint off. I bought this one over a year ago. One thing anyone looking for one is that they are a bling addition, not truly a useful addition. They will only hold 25 pounds according to the warning on the piece itself. But the look is cool and it will draw attention to your car. I had thought about putting graphics of an engine under it for awhile, making it look like a mid engine car. It would have been fun, but never did it.