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Pontiac is pleased to announce that the June Consensus Cycle (June 10-18,
2005) represents the first installment of Solstice estimated shipments
based on the estimated 4-month dealer allocation quantities previously
communicated at gmdealerworld.com. Please be advised that dealer orders
submitted against this allocation will be built following the production
of
the First 1,000 exclusive retail orders under the Solstice Early Order
Program. The target production week(s) associated with the June Consensus
Cycle for Solstice is undetermined until after initial production and
rigorous quality inspections are complete. Further details are
forthcoming
and will be communicated when available. It is strongly recommended when
submitting orders against this earned allocation that sold orders are
given
the highest priority and customer delivery expectations are managed
effectively.
 

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conejo148 said:
Just some brain candy...

Pontiac is pleased to announce that the June Consensus Cycle (June 10-18,
2005) represents the first installment of Solstice estimated shipments
based on the estimated 4-month dealer allocation quantities previously
communicated at gmdealerworld.com. Please be advised that dealer orders
submitted against this allocation will be built following the production
of
the First 1,000 exclusive retail orders under the Solstice Early Order
Program. The target production week(s) associated with the June Consensus
Cycle for Solstice is undetermined until after initial production and
rigorous quality inspections are complete. Further details are
forthcoming
and will be communicated when available. It is strongly recommended when
submitting orders against this earned allocation that sold orders are
given
the highest priority and customer delivery expectations are managed
effectively.
So what does this mian in English?
 

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So essientially all the "new" info in regards to the estimated production dates have been axed and we'll recieve new info closer to their production. I see they're playing it safe, I just hope it doesn't mean my car doesn't get delivered until December :)
 

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conejo148 said:
Just some brain candy...

Pontiac is pleased to announce that the June Consensus Cycle (June 10-18,
2005) represents the first installment of Solstice estimated shipments
based on the estimated 4-month dealer allocation quantities previously
communicated at gmdealerworld.com. Please be advised that dealer orders
submitted against this allocation will be built following the production
of
the First 1,000 exclusive retail orders under the Solstice Early Order
Program. The target production week(s) associated with the June Consensus
Cycle for Solstice is undetermined until after initial production and
rigorous quality inspections are complete. Further details are
forthcoming
and will be communicated when available. It is strongly recommended when
submitting orders against this earned allocation that sold orders are
given
the highest priority and customer delivery expectations are managed
effectively.
Am I reading this wrong or does this not make sense? The way I read it it seems to say "Pontiac is pleased to announce that we blew our estimated delivery dates"??
 

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I think someone writing this has a bright future as a governmental spin doctor... a lot of words to say nonsense.
 

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I make a pretty good living in part from interpretting contracts, and you are soo right... to paraphrase Yogi Berra, "This nonsense makes no sense"... :lol:

They just don't want us in the "kitchen", they must be affraid it :( might spoil our "appetites".
 

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I wonder if this memo is in response to forum members trying to track build dates and delivery dates by having their dealers provide them with this info?

Sounds like GM is once again trying to manage our expectations by blocking our access to this up-to-the-minute data normally reserved for GM employees and dealers.
 

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Small Dealer: We need your translation :crazy:

I think this means that they have it on paper.

Here's a pre-production quote by Bob Lutz:
Obviously, you can't say it's going to be produced before it's had a chance to make the rounds," he explained. "Having said that, you've got to feel good about a vehicle such as this. Clearly we've approached it with a mindset toward production based on low investment, minimal validation time and flexible manufacturing.
 

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Translation as I read it:

We hope and expect to be producing these cars soon, but we are not committing to an actual date yet.
 

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Just got picked up

I recieved notice this morning that my order was picked up by GM. I was number 6 of the 7 alotted to my dealer. Based on the rate of production it could be late fall or early next year. But I am just thrilled it got picked up!
 

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package said:
So what does this mian in English?
Pontiac has started to pull normal dealer allocation orders.

These orders will be built after the 1000.

Pontiac has no firm production dates set yet.

Pontiac is asking dealers to fill sold customer orders before cars for dealer stock.

Pontiac doesn't know when these cars will be built and is telling the dealers not to BS the customers with early delivery promises.
 

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Just in from Pontiac Engineering Team, "The panel fitment of the Solstice can not be corrected at the factory". Front body panels and hood will need re-engineering in order to meet factory production tolerences... :brentil:

This will delay production startup till the end of 2005 calendar year. Pontiac marketing has been instructed to transfer all early Solstice orders over to Mazda for a new MX5 until the problem can be corrected.
 

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Wouldn't that be a crapper!

Delnari said:
Just in from Pontiac Engineering Team, "The panel fitment of the Solstice can not be corrected at the factory". Front body panels and hood will need re-engineering in order to meet factory production tolerences... :brentil:

This will delay production startup till the end of 2005 calendar year. Pontiac marketing has been instructed to transfer all early Solstice orders over to Mazda for a new MX5 until the problem can be corrected.

Don't give them any ideas! :willy:
 

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Delnari said:
Just in from Pontiac Engineering Team, "The panel fitment of the Solstice can not be corrected at the factory". Front body panels and hood will need re-engineering in order to meet factory production tolerences... :brentil:

This will delay production startup till the end of 2005 calendar year. Pontiac marketing has been instructed to transfer all early Solstice orders over to Mazda for a new MX5 until the problem can be corrected.
For those that want next year's performance version, please purchase a Honda S2000 or a BMW Z4...

Thank you.

-The Pontiac Team
 

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Delnari = :devil:

That was too close to reality to be funny. Please don't do that again. :leaving:
 

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conejo148 said:
Just some brain candy...

Pontiac is pleased to announce that the June Consensus Cycle (June 10-18,
2005) represents the first installment of Solstice estimated shipments
based on the estimated 4-month dealer allocation quantities previously
communicated at gmdealerworld.com. Please be advised that dealer orders
submitted against this allocation will be built following the production
of
the First 1,000 exclusive retail orders under the Solstice Early Order
Program. The target production week(s) associated with the June Consensus
Cycle for Solstice is undetermined until after initial production and
rigorous quality inspections are complete. Further details are
forthcoming
and will be communicated when available. It is strongly recommended when
submitting orders against this earned allocation that sold orders are
given
the highest priority and customer delivery expectations are managed
effectively.
I love the term "consensus cycle".. who's consensus are we talking about? I think someone got handed a dictionary.. closed their eyes.. opened the book and found a couple of words to put together...all the time snickering "heh heh.. let em think this memo actually means something...."
 

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SlipSlider said:
10,000 comedians out of work and your guys are trying to be funny.
What are you trying to say? :confused:

:glol:
 

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Actually, there's precident for this type of snickering...

package said:
I love the term "consensus cycle".. who's consensus are we talking about? I think someone got handed a dictionary.. closed their eyes.. opened the book and found a couple of words to put together...all the time snickering "heh heh.. let em think this memo actually means something...."
This has happened before:
link to: Usenet posting: THE REAL SOURCE OF THE WORD "OCTOTHORPE" The Bell Labs guys invented the word "octothorpe" to describe the "#" symbol on the tehelpone dial pad. Here's the text of the explanation provided by Ralf Carlsen of AT&T 1995-11-28:
From: [email protected] (Ralph Carlsen)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 16:21:55 -0500
Subject: Octothorpe (The Answer)


Pat,

The following explains where "octothorpe" really came from. I
am sending this to you because, as you will see, there are very few
people who could know this story. The reason I am writing at this
time is because I volunteered for the AT&T Lay Off package after 34
years of service at Bell Labs so I may not be around much longer.
During the past year I have enjoyed reading your news group, and I
have used your archives a couple of times (once to get "octothorpe").
Your comments and notes on the postings suggest you and I would agree
on lots of things related to our telecom industry.


Ralph Carlsen

THE REAL SOURCE OF THE WORD "OCTOTHORPE"

First, where did the symbols * and # come from? In about 1961
when DTMF dials were still in development, two Bell Labs guys in data
communications engineering (Link Rice and Jack Soderberg) toured the
USA talking to people who were thinking about telephone access to
computers. They asked about possible applications, and what symbols
should be used on two keys that would be used exclusively for data
applications. The primary result was that the symbols should be
something available on all standard typewriter keyboards. The * and #
were selected as a result of this study, and people did not expect to
use those keys for voice services. The Bell System in those days did
not look internationally to see if this was a good choice for foreign
countries.

Then in the early 1960s Bell Labs developed the 101 ESS which
was the first stored program controlled switching system (it was a
PBX). One of the first installations was at the Mayo Clinic. This
PBX had lots of modern features (Call Forwarding, Speed Calling,
Directed Call Pickup, etc.), some of which were activated by using the
# sign. A Bell Labs supervisor DON MACPHERSON went to the Mayo Clinic
just before cut over to train the doctors and staff on how to use the
new features on this state of the art switching system. During one of
his lectures he felt the need to come up with a word to describe the #
symbol. Don also liked to add humor to his work. His thought process
which took place while at the Mayo Clinic doing lectures was as follows:

- There are eight points on the symbol so "OCTO" should be part
of the name.

- We need a few more letters or another syllable to make a
noun, so what should that be? (Don MacPherson at this point in his
life was active in a group that was trying to get JIM THORPE's Olympic
medals returned from Sweden) The phrase THORPE would be unique, and
people would not suspect he was making the word up if he called it an
"OCTOTHORPE".

So Don Macpherson began using the term Octothorpe to describe
the # symbol in his lectures. When he returned to Bell Labs in
Holmdel NJ, he told us what he had done, and began using the term
Octothorpe in memos and letters. The term was picked up by other Bell
Labs people and used mostly for the fun of it. Some of the documents
which used the term Octothorpe found their way to Bell Operating
Companies and other public places. Over the years, Don and I have
enjoyed seeing the term Octothorpe appear in documents from many
different sources.

Don MacPherson retired about eight years ago, and I will be
retiring in about six weeks.


Ralph Carlsen

These are, of course, my remembrances and are not any official statement
of AT&T or the subsequent 3 companies.


[TELECOM Dgiest Editor's note: Thank you very much for sharing. This
is indeed an interesting report. Do you think you could get Don MacPherson
to join us here among the Digest readership? PAT]
 
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