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I just ran across this article (3/9/17) about a (former?) forum member car being featured. I think a lot of you will remember it, the owner went through a couple different set of wheels in a short period of time. Anyway, it's nice to see an American car being featured in an import heavy genre.
StanceWars Group ? Fitment is Key ? Jared Morgan ? Stancewars




Whats it like to be Jared Morgan and pave the way with a Pontiac Solstice
Photos by JW Photos - Words by Mike Tolliver and Jared Morgan
I was wondering though our StanceWars Facebook group and I saw this amazing ride, so I asked Jared to pop me a few pics, after being impressed I asked for more info, so enjoy and #Bedifferent
My name is Jared Morgan. You can find me on Instagram at @Jared_r_morgan. I’m from New Orleans, Louisiana and I represent @Hyperlowmafia and @Sovereign_fitment. I drive a 2008 Pontiac Solstice on LB Forged wheels
Jared Why this car? I wanted something out of the box…something that no matter what I did to it, I would be endeavoring into uncharted territory. For me, It’s fun to make something that will have all who view it second guess their own views like, “Damn….I hate (inset car make and model here), but that one is SICK!!!” hahaha.

Jared , How many cars have you built? This will be my second car that I’ve built. My previous one was equally uncommon in the stance/import scene, but it wasn’t as fun for me to drive. It was a 2012 Chevrolet Malibu that gained a lot of attention. However, I could only drive an automatic economy sedan for so long before I got totally bored.
What was the hardest to do on this car? The hardest thing was dialing the fitment. It’s not like I could just hop on a forum and steal specs. The majority of Solstice owners are older fellas who own the cars strictly to take their wives out on the weekends for tea at the country club and stuff. I juggled through a few wheel sets getting it all squared away.
What do people NOT notice on this car? That’s a hard thing to say honestly. The car is an attention grabber by nature, but if there’s one thing that the majority of people don’t realize it’s that there is HUGE aftermarket support for this platform. Lots of performance as well as aesthetic mods out there to work with. The possibilities truly are endless. There are hardtops that turn the cars into station wagons, there are V8 swap kits, forced induction kits…you name it. It’s pretty rad! I’m definitely not finished with this car.

If you did this again what WOULD YOU NOT do? Knowing what I know now? I wouldn’t waste a second settling for wheels that aren’t perfect. If you know your specs, go custom forged. I tell everyone that. Get the wheel you want. Get the finish you want. Get the specs you want. Don’t settle, because you only spend a hell of a lot more in the end. What I would do to get some of that money back…..haha!
What do you think of people copying you? Faltering or hate it. Honestly, nobody has tried. Haha! I like it that way.
Jared – Who inspired you to do this? My taste has been influenced by many aspects of car culture. You’ll notice my “culture is a beautiful thing” stickers on my front fenders. This is an ode to the fact that I have an appreciation for all custom cars granted they are built with care and built right. I grew up on American classics, but I found fascination in imports/stance as I grew older. Hence why you’ll notice my car is a fusion of styles all in one little package.
What is your dream car? Well…Dream car assumes no budget. So let me go full dreamer mode here and say my dream car is that baby blue Liberty Walk 458 with the dark blue Forgi’s on it. That thing drives me absolutely nuts. *insert heart eyes emoji*

Wheels specs
LB Forged LB-152 in 24k Gold finish w/ polished lips.
Front 20×10 +25 w/ 225/35 Toyo Proxes
Rear 20×11 +30 w/ 245/35 Toyo Proxes

 

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A front bumper, wheels that don't fit and tires that are too small for the wheels counts as "building" a car now?

I guess this is cool if you hate driving.
 

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HUGE aftermarket??? Really???
 

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Remember y'all we were young once too… For example, in my youth the look was 70s aspect sidewalls, white letter tires on 15 inch Cragers or Keystones chrome wheels, with airshocks so you could get the ass of the car up as high as stupidly possible, in order to show everyone the obnoxious red Cherrybomb mufflers. And the more that older people B&M about it, the cooler it was. Bumper sticker of the day; If you think it's too loud, you're too old!

However, I think what has to be focused on is that this Solstice is being exposed to a younger car crowd, and if it's anything a orphan car needs, it's new blood so that the car remains relevant.
 

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Wow, that looks like garbage.
 

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Wow, that looks like garbage.
To you. There is a pretty huge scene out there, can't deny it. Stancing is not Racing, it's about looking good in a parking lot IMO; it's a completely different culture that I don't completely understand. What I do understand was my willingness to do anything to mod my car when I was 16-18...then I went to Auto Tech school and smartened up a bit. But that passion, zip ties, exhaust tips, Home Depot cold air intake ducting, etc. all got me into automotive industry, and now automotive engineering development.

I think part of the reason this stance look is persistent is because it upsets a lot of people, so it is like a form of rebellion. In addition, the cars almost resemble real life cartoons, I can see why it is appealing to the youngsters.
 

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Remember y'all we were young once too…
Yeah, but I wasn't stupid, and I like cars I can drive and any mods should be in aid of that. Modding to reduce the ability to drive a car safety is stupidity. Basically turning a functioning car into a more or less immobile sculpture.

Paint your Solstice metalflake purple and I'll question your aesthetic sense, which is no big deal - to each his own. Turn it into clown car with appearance mods that also cripple it's handling and drivability, and I'll question your sanity, while agreeing that you have every right to do what you want with it..
 

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The look of Jared's car is not for me but this what he is into so who am I to judge . Just like painting anything but a hot rod flat black or the patina look that's popular today these trends do nothing for me and I think it ruins the look of a lot of cars I have seen but again it's up to the owner to personalize his car and in the end he or she is the one who drives it .One of the great things about the forum is the diversity of the cars the owners have from a well maintained stock car like Chickenwire's to the "King Of Modders " Rob The Elder life would be pretty dull if we all drove around in similar looking cars .Just to add Jared's car went through a couple of different looks while he was on the forum and the last was a bit more tamer . :driving:
 

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Yeah, but I wasn't stupid, and I like cars I can drive and any mods should be in aid of that. Modding to reduce the ability to drive a car safety is stupidity. Basically turning a functioning car into a more or less immobile sculpture.

Paint your Solstice metalflake purple and I'll question your aesthetic sense, which is no big deal - to each his own. Turn it into clown car with appearance mods that also cripple it's handling and drivability, and I'll question your sanity, while agreeing that you have every right to do what you want with it..
This is my type of clown car, it's called Ronald ;)


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Remember y'all we were young once too…
Being in my 20's I would say I'm younger than 80% of the members on this forum.

...I think part of the reason this stance look is persistent is because it upsets a lot of people....
I am not upset that somebody made their own car undriveable. I don't mind if they want to ruin their own property. The reason it is "popular" is because it takes no skill at all. You buy your way in with expensive wheels and cheap coilovers. There is no competition or way to loose at stance events. You """build""" a car, take some pictures of it, drive to the nearest parking lot and scrape going in, and thats all. This is what happens when a generation growing up always gets a trophy. They have to have a "scene" or "movement" to describe themselves but its nothing more than attention whoring. They modify there cars not because they like it, if you have ever ridden in one there is no way somebody could like that, they do it to fit in with their group while at the same time trying to call themselves unique.
 

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This is what happens when a generation growing up always gets a trophy. They have to have a "scene" or "movement" to describe themselves but its nothing more than attention whoring. They modify there cars not because they like it, if you have ever ridden in one there is no way somebody could like that, they do it to fit in with their group while at the same time trying to call themselves unique.
I think that's on point and also accounts for other manifestations of pretending to be different while actually conforming to a group - kids who all get tattoos to be 'different' being another one.

I shake my head at the guys doing mods like that, but I respect the young guys who get into things like solo at any level where they get to shoot for a target and, I think, benefit from the exercise no matter how successfully they do it.
 

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Being in my 20's I would say I'm younger than 80% of the members on this forum.



I am not upset that somebody made their own car undriveable. I don't mind if they want to ruin their own property. The reason it is "popular" is because it takes no skill at all. You buy your way in with expensive wheels and cheap coilovers. There is no competition or way to loose at stance events. You """build""" a car, take some pictures of it, drive to the nearest parking lot and scrape going in, and thats all. This is what happens when a generation growing up always gets a trophy. They have to have a "scene" or "movement" to describe themselves but its nothing more than attention whoring. They modify there cars not because they like it, if you have ever ridden in one there is no way somebody could like that, they do it to fit in with their group while at the same time trying to call themselves unique.
I am not a stancer supporter, I would just palm slap my forehead and walk away, so my way of insulting stancers is to ignore them.

Part of me thinks there are stance kids out there who love cars and making them better, but are ignorant and unexperienced and really tight on cash. Personally, there are no and were no gearheads in my family, not even close. When I saw a Senior in High School automotive class building a V8, I wasnt sure what to think and didnt understand how the kid could do that. Obviously, his dad wrenched on cars, they built a sick fastback Mustang that year. I am genuinely jealous of friends dads who taught them mechanics when young.
 

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If you own the car, you have a right to mod it however you want. You do not need everyone to like it. As long as you are satisfied -great!

Some owners are never satisfied and continue to add mods or change prior mods. To each his own.

I grew up in a family of mechanics and was pumping gas at 14 when the biggest challenge was not modding the family car, but was not looking stupid going out to pump gas and figure out where the gas caps were hidden (late 50's/early 60's). I became an Engineer (Chemical), but continued to do miscellaneous work on various vehicles I owned. I just finished replacing the brake pads on my NA myself because I wanted to make sure the parking brake was adjusted properly.
 

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I now own this very car and it's not safe to drive on so many levels. It had an owner after the one mentioned but pretty positive he did not touch it. On the other note got a roll bar, Bride seats, Sparco steering wheel with NRG disconnect for sale. To say the spacing on the front wheels was done by driving it and praying the brakes stayed attached is enough.
 

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I now own this very car and it's not safe to drive on so many levels. It had an owner after the one mentioned but pretty positive he did not touch it. On the other note got a roll bar, Bride seats, Sparco steering wheel with NRG disconnect for sale. To say the spacing on the front wheels was done by driving it and praying the brakes stayed attached is enough.
Have you been under the car? How bad is it scraped up?
 

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LT1Pat is the King of modders.
He did all the work on his v8 twin turbo build, vs paying someone else to do it.

The rest of us, no matter how much we have changed on our cars, come in at best, second place.

IMHO, that Stance crap is just stupid. But hey, it's their money. If they want to fawk up something they own, that's their right.
 

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Solstice30 I would like to see some pictures of the damage to this car also.
 
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