[Brian15501]

I was watching a few how to vids over the weekend. One was was installing an anti-sway bar on a mustang, it was an aftermarket bar from a well known company. But one of the things included in the kit was "stop collars" they were placed inside the frame brackets to keep the bar from sliding back and forth, they actually were a OEM replacement part. I found a place that makes shaft collars that can be finished machined to the proper diameter. I was wondering if this could make an improvement on our cars handling, not sure if it would or how much or if it would have an adverse effect. Opinions everybody?

 

[TomatoSoup]

Doubt it. Sway bar is to stop 'twist' in a vertical direction. It can't move back and forth much (if at all) due to the end links and if it did, what would it matter? It's not a chassis stiffener.

 

[wspohn]

I have some cars that use these and I usually run them on the race car, but their purpose is to prevent the bar 'walking' slightly laterally so that the bar and/'or linkage can foul the rest of the suspension (usually tie rods). I frankly can't recall whether or not that might happen on a Kappa as it's been awhile since I set the car up.

If putting them on floats your boat, you can get them places like this:

McMaster-Carr

You need two.

 

[TomatoSoup]

I have some cars that use these and I usually run them on the race car, but their purpose is to prevent the bar 'walking' slightly laterally so that the bar and/'or linkage can foul the rest of the suspension (usually tie rods). I frankly can't recall whether or not that might happen on a Kappa as it's been awhile since I set the car up.

Then no. Interference like that would not be possible:

 

[TX08manualGXP]

Have you done any other mods to your car? have you noticed any problem areas with the way you drive. If yours is stock, you might try a DDM backbone, Pro Beam and Venom brace to tighten it up.

 

[Brian15501]

3/8 backbone........done, venom brace.......done, reBAR........done. Next month will be gxp coil overs with the extra spring shelf removed as per GMP instructions in their book. FE3 ZOK front and rear anti sway bars with poly bushings from ddm sitting at home for install this weekend. Autowerks rear brace on the list, cross member will be welded up this winter when I replace control arm bushings with poly. I want a cross bay brace not sure from whom. The stop collars wouldn't make a difference to many but I'd know they were there just don't want them messing things up.

A friend suggested taking 2 pieces of rubber hose and putting a hose clamp around them just inside the frame bushing to see if they move while cornering. Clamp will keep the hose from falling off and allow it to slide if it does and will also show how much it does.

 

[TomatoSoup]

A friend suggested taking 2 pieces of rubber hose and putting a hose clamp around them just inside the frame bushing to see if they move while cornering. Clamp will keep the hose from falling off and allow it to slide if it does and will also show how much it does.

Again, why bother? I just don't get this. Even if it moves, what do you hope to gain by stopping it (if you could)?

Waste of time IMO.

 

[wspohn]

Yes, waste of time. Took a look at the car after TS posted the pic. Clamps would do nothing whatsoever for the car.

But hey, its your car, so do what you want. Why not put six clamps on each side just to be sure......

 

[TX08manualGXP]

6 would be overkill Bill. 5 should be sufficient.

 

[wspohn]

6 would be overkill Bill. 5 should be sufficient.

As long as he put two on the driver's side and 3 on the passenger side to offset the driver's weight, right? :devil:

 

[TX08manualGXP]

you had said 6 on each side but yeah, need to compensate for driver weight, that's for sure.

 

[SolNut]

:beatdead:

Would you want to bias them per course direction? :dunno:

 

[Brian15501]

Hey I need to ride that horse

You all assume the clamps would be outside the frame rails, I think they would fit better inside the rails. There is one very simple answer to everyone.......to be different.

 

[LatinVenom]

Since you already install the DDM Venom brace there is no need for a cross bay brace.

 

[OSUCherokee]

Since you already install the DDM Venom brace there is no need for a cross bay brace.

Is this because they both do the same job, or because it would over-stiffen the front end?

 

[TomatoSoup]

Past the point of diminishing returns.

 

[LatinVenom]

Because they do the same job. Our shock mounts are welded to the frame. The Venom Brace is all that is need it to tie the front of the chassis.
Our car do not have struts.