How many passanger cars use a wet clutch setup? I'm not calling you out or anything, I've just never heard of a wet clutch in a car with a standard "h-pattern" manual transmission.GNS said:I never heard of the Aisin transmission. Has it been used in other cars and if so how good is it. Is the clutch wet or dry.
The 5 speed manual in the Ion Redline is sourced from Saab, not Aisin. The Aisin is only in the base 2.2L ecotec cars.psycho-squirrel said:I think he's referring to the hydraulic clutch, lots of passengers cars use them.
Also, a version of the Aisin 5-speed is on the Ion and colorado, but I wonder if the actual ratios are all new for the Solstice. The pontiac press releases always refer to a "close-ratio" 5-spd, but the Ion redline suffers from a very tall set of gears (from what i've heard) and this limits the acceleration that the 205hp Ion could achieve if it had a better tranny.
Personally I have always wanted the Aisin 6-spd from the S2000, matched with a FI motor in the Solstice. (the Miata will have a 6-spd, GM needs to step up or else suffer negative press about it's trannies not meeting class standards.)
psycho-squirrel said:I think he's referring to the hydraulic clutch, lots of passengers cars use them.
That is a very old image from before the car started showing up on the car show circuit. The following image is the most recent of the internals that you want to use to look for componenets.2KWK4U said:Nope, that's the brake master cylinder, and coolant overflow resorvior. Also you can see the filler neck for the windshield washer fluid.
Check out this pic to verify that it is the coolant overflow tank.
The Ecotec in the Solstice will have a much beefier torque curve than the S2000. Given the right gear set it should not require a 6-speed box to achieve optimum acceleration. Too much shifting can actually slow you down. Also, at 0.81:1, the 6th gear in the S2000 is nothing more than a VERY tall overdrive cruising gear. I seriously doubt the engine in the S2000 has enough grunt to make good use of such a tall gear in any performance driving situation. But then, I could be all wrong.psycho-squirrel said:.....Personally I have always wanted the Aisin 6-spd from the S2000, matched with a FI motor in the Solstice. (the Miata will have a 6-spd, GM needs to step up or else suffer negative press about it's trannies not meeting class standards.)
Fformula88 said:The big demand for 6 speed manuals, 7 speed autos, etc, is partly due to the "more is better" way of thinking. Could they be better? Absolutely. Are they always better? Well, maybe and maybe not.
I don't think the Sol needs a 6 speed now, and I am hoping it has a broad enough torque curve that the F/I engine doesn't either. The best reason I can see for one is to keep the car in its powerband, if that powerband is small. Therefore, the smaller ratios are of benefit. Otherwise, its just extra work to row through the gears, or you just end up skipping gears all the time.