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Alignment specs? Windface?

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#1 ·
Have alignment specs for the Solstice been released yet anywhere? Weren't we thinking that Grass Roots Motorsports magazine would publish their recommendations in an upcoming issue? Anyone here a subscriber?

Windface, can you post the specs from the service manual?
 
#2 ·
If memory serves correctly:

With a full fuel tank,

Front and rear camber, - 1/2 degree.

Front and rear total toe, 0.10 degrees toe in. I don't recall what this translates if you think in inches, but maybe 1/16"?

I think the front caster is pretty high, around 7.5 degrees.

The thing I do remember, is there is a setting for the rear caster with the need of a special tool, but I don't know what said tool looks like. I'm told if this is not set properly, the car will definitely have issues with handling and ride toe in the rear.

Can someone who has a service manual confirm?
 
#3 ·
Rear caster? I'm not even sure how I would go about measuring this. Isn't caster in the front wheels derived from measurements of camber at two known steering angles? Is there another way to precisely measure rear caster at home?
 
#4 ·
2KWK4U said:
Rear caster? I'm not even sure how I would go about measuring this. Isn't caster in the front wheels derived from measurements of camber at two known steering angles? Is there another way to precisely measure rear caster at home?
Yup.

I assume you would use the holes that the assembly plant uses to reference the angle of the knuckle. Much like the 'Vette/XLR are set in the plant.

You are right, front caster is measured in the field by "sweeping" the steering and determining the difference in camber between two steer angles - which can then be used to infer the caster angle. The other method is measuring it directly, either by reference holes or a device that attaches to the ball studs.
 
#6 ·
TOY4TWO said:
do you have to use shims like on the MR2 or is it full adjustable camber?
The ones I've seen had cam-bolts on the lower control arm for both the front and the rear suspension. Should be simple to confirm for any of the owners.
 
#8 · (Edited)
Wheel Alignment Specifications

Front Suspension
Camber -0.50° ± 0.50°
Camber Cross Tolerance 0.00° ± 0.50°
Caster 7.50° ± 0.50°
Caster Cross Tolerance 0.00 ± 0.50°
Total Toe 0.10° ± 0.20
Steering Wheel Angle 0.00°± 3.50°

Front Caster and Camber Adjustment

Important: Adjust Camber, then Caster, then Toe.


Loosen the lower control arm cam bolt nuts.

Rotate the cam bolts to the required caster or camber specification setting. Refer to Wheel Alignment Specifications .

Notice: Use the correct fastener in the correct location. Replacement fasteners must be the correct part number for that application. Fasteners requiring replacement or fasteners requiring the use of thread locking compound or sealant are identified in the service procedure. Do not use paints, lubricants, or corrosion inhibitors on fasteners or fastener joint surfaces unless specified. These coatings affect fastener torque and joint clamping force and may damage the fastener. Use the correct tightening sequence and specifications when installing fasteners in order to avoid damage to parts and systems.

Maintain the caster or camber setting while tightening the cam bolt nuts.

Tighten
Tighten the front lower control arm cam bolt nuts to 170 N·m (125 lb ft).

Check the caster and camber settings after tightening.
Adjust the caster and camber setting if necessary.





Rear Suspension

Camber -0.50° ± 0.50°
Camber Cross Tolerance 0.00° ± 0.50°
Caster -4.00°± 0.50°
Caster Cross Tolerance 0.00 ± 0.50°
Total Toe 0.10° ± 0.20
Thrust Angle 0.00° ± 0.20°

Rear Camber Adjustment

Important: Adjust Camber, then Caster, then Toe.


Loosen the lower control arm cam bolt nuts.

Rotate the cam bolts to the required camber specification setting. Refer to Wheel Alignment Specifications .

Notice: Use the correct fastener in the correct location. Replacement fasteners must be the correct part number for that application. Fasteners requiring replacement or fasteners requiring the use of thread locking compound or sealant are identified in the service procedure. Do not use paints, lubricants, or corrosion inhibitors on fasteners or fastener joint surfaces unless specified. These coatings affect fastener torque and joint clamping force and may damage the fastener. Use the correct tightening sequence and specifications when installing fasteners in order to avoid damage to parts and systems.

Maintain the camber setting while tightening the cam bolt nuts.

Tighten

• Tighten the rear lower control arm (front) bolt nut to 170 N·m (125 lb ft).

• Tighten the rear lower control arm (rear) bolt nut to 170 N·m (125 lb ft).

Check the camber setting after tightening. Adjust the camber setting if necessary.



Looks like everyone was working on answers at the same time.
 
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#9 · (Edited)
2KWK4U said:
Have alignment specs for the Solstice been released yet anywhere? Weren't we thinking that Grass Roots Motorsports magazine would publish their recommendations in an upcoming issue? Anyone here a subscriber?

Windface, can you post the specs from the service manual?
Front: camber= neg.0.50deg. camber cross tolerance=0.00 caster=7.50deg. caster cross tolerance=0.00 total toe 0.10deg. steering wheel angle=0.00 Rear: same as front except:caster neg.4.00deg. rear thrust angle=0.00 Hope this helps, Windface.
 
#11 · (Edited)
SolsticeMan said:
SmD', is there anything on how to measure the "rear caster"? :confused:

No, nothing in the manual about checking or how to adjust.
 
#12 ·
Thanks for the info, all. Yes, S-man you're right. There are eccentrics at every lower control arm-to-frame mounting point.
 
#14 ·
shabby said:
Any on the upper control arm? If you adjust the lower control arm to fix negative camber you basically shorten the track.
IIRC, no. Any of the owners can confirm, but I think the uppers are actually welded-nut.

And your thinking is true, but this effect is usually desired - when you set a car up for better lateral grip, usually (not always) you want to dial in some negative camber. Also, when you want to improve handling, a wider track at ground is desired. Both of these exist when your adjustment is at the lower control arm - dial in some negative camber and you automatically get a wider track. :thumbs:
 
#15 ·
SolsticeMan said:
IIRC, no. Any of the owners can confirm, but I think the uppers are actually welded-nut.

And your thinking is true, but this effect is usually desired - when you set a car up for better lateral grip, usually (not always) you want to dial in some negative camber. Also, when you want to improve handling, a wider track at ground is desired. Both of these exist when your adjustment is at the lower control arm - dial in some negative camber and you automatically get a wider track. :thumbs:
Thats true, but i forgot to mention that when you lower the car negative camber is the end result... usually too much negative camber. So now when you fiddle around with the lower control arm to fix the excessive camber you are shortening the track.
 
#16 ·
SolsticeMan said:
SmD', is there anything on how to measure the "rear caster"? :confused:
There is now!

A $300+ Digital Angle Gage has arrived for just that function. It attaches to the rear knuckle to measure caster angle.

Believe that the dealership would have to contact Technical Assistance to get the adjustment procedure.
 
#17 ·
Small Dealer said:
There is now!

A $300+ Digital Angle Gage has arrived for just that function. It attaches to the rear knuckle to measure caster angle.

Believe that the dealership would have to contact Technical Assistance to get the adjustment procedure.

Another tool for the average home garage....kewl :)
 
#18 ·
Solstice Rear Caster



The Pontiac Solstice enjoys the distinction of being the first GM vehicle to have adjustable rear caster (fig. 1). It will soon be joined by the Saturn SKY.


A procedure has been developed to measure rear wheel caster, using a new Digital Angle Gauge. But first, a little detail on rear caster.

Rear Caster

Rear caster adjustment is used on the Solstice and SKY to insure rear ride steer (bump steer) is within specification. Ride steer is toe change during vertical wheel travel.

On a front suspension, it’s common to check caster by doing a “caster sweep,” in which the wheels are steered through an angle, and the caster angle is indicated. Because the rear wheels don’t have steering gear, a caster sweep is not possible. So a direct measurement is necessary.

Digital Angle Gauge

A new Digital Angle Gauge CH-47960 (fig. 2) has been released by SPX Kent-Moore. It will be essential for all Pontiac and Saturn dealers.


Instructions for use are supplied with the gauge. Here are some highlights.

The gauge consists of three parts: a battery powered control unit, a sensor, and a connecting cable.

The control unit provides simple input buttons:

- to specify the side of the vehicle being checked (driver or passenger)

- to zero the instrument.

- to specify offset

There are two locating pins on the back of the sensor (fig. 3). They can be adjusted up and down by twisting to loosen and tighten.


The pins are inserted into two manufacturing gauge holes in the rear wheel knuckle (fig. 4).


Measuring Tips

Before using the gauge, it must be zeroed to the alignment rack (fig. 5). This is accomplished simply by placing the sensor on the rack and pressing the zero button. Zeroing accounts for variations in the levelness of individual alignment racks, so it’s never a concern. You don’t have to do any math or make allowances.


TIP: Be sure both the bottom of the sensor and the surface of the alignment rack are free of debris, to avoid an inaccurate zero.

Before installing the sensor to the knuckle, use a soft (nylon) bristle brush to clean debris from the gauge holes. Do not use power tools or abrasives.

Use the appropriate pushbutton on the control unit to indicate which side of the vehicle you’re working on, either driver or passenger.

A vertical line drawn through the gauge holes in the knuckle (B) is not quite perpendicular to the axis between the two balljoints (A). So you need to locate the specification of that angle and input it into the tool. This is called the offset (fig. 6), and in the case of the Solstice rear wheels, it’s +3.7°.


Finally, take the caster reading (the specification is -4° +/- 0.5°). By specifying the offset angle earlier, you set up the gauge so the readout indicates the actual caster angle (fig. 7). You don’t have to do any math.


TIP: If you study the front and rear suspension of the Solstice, you may notice that the driver front knuckle resembles the passenger rear knuckle, and the passenger front and driver rear knuckles resemble each other. This suggests that you could use the gauge to check front caster. This would require inputting “driver” into the Digital Angle Gauge when working on the passenger side, and vice versa. Don’t be tempted to do this, however, because the front offset angle is different from the rear, and this specification has not been published.

Alignment Tips

TIP: It’s important to complete the rear wheel alignment before aligning the front end.

IMPORTANT: If you do not have Digital Angle Gauge CH-47960, do not attempt to adjust rear caster. In this case, set only rear camber.

TIP: When you do a rear wheel alignment, you will observe adjustments for camber and toe from your alignment rack readout, and caster from your Digital Angle Tool.

There are two adjustment cams on the rear lower control arm (fig. 8). The front cam is used to adjust caster, and the rear cam is used to adjust camber. Toe is controlled by an adjustable rear toe link.


A Rear cam -- camber

B Front cam -- caster

It’s important to make the suspension checks and adjustments in the following order, to minimize having to make multiple passes.

1. Camber
2. Caster
3. Toe
4. Fine tune camber *
5. Fine tune caster *
6. Fine tune toe*
* if required


TIP: Both cams affect caster to some extent, but the rear cam affects camber about eight times as much as it affects caster. This is why you should set camber first, then caster.
 

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#24 ·
Alignment specs are now different in the On-Line Service Manual for the 2006 Solstice. Here they are:

Front Suspension
Camber -0.50° ± 0.60°
Camber Cross Tolerance 0.00° ± 0.60°
Caster 8.00° ± 0.60°
Caster Cross Tolerance 0.00 ± 0.60°
Total Toe 0.10° ± 0.20
Steering Wheel Angle 0.00°± 3.50°

Rear Suspension
Camber -0.50° ± 0.50°
Camber Cross Tolerance 0.00° ± 0.50°
Caster -4.00°± 0.75°
Total Toe 0.10° ± 0.20
Thrust Angle 0.00° ± 0.20°

There are also slight tweaks in the procedures.
 
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