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10" Subwoofer Alpine SWS-1023D in Stock Monsoon Box?

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What do you think of the Alpine SWS-1023D subwoofer? Do you think this could fit in out Monsoon sound system box?

I Verified and made sure it was like the stock woofer (double voice coils 2 ohm + 2ohm)

The top mount depth is 4 1/4! is this to large? Maybe I can add a little ring spacer for it to fit?

I just got my car back from the dealer for some sound system work and it turns out none of my problems are covered because the P/O did a hack job on the audio system. I must absolutely replace all speakers and the subwoofer. The subwoofer box is already cut out for a 10" sub, therefore going back to a 8 inch is impossible unless I change the box. The factory monsoon amp is still present.

I've also decided to match the amp up to the following speakers:

Rear: Polk Audio db351 3.5" 4ohm
Front: JBL GTO607C 6.5 2ohm

I really would like to keep the factory amp and head unit. I'm not after killer sound, just good sound and I can’t currently afford an amp.

any advice or opinions are appreciated!
 
#3 ·
I noticed the previous owner put a bead of silicone between his 10" woofer and the stock monsoon box in order to make the seal air tight. He took the speaker out but left the silicone.

Since the bottom part of the box is higher and the 10" would also sit on the higher end the speaker is to sit at an angle, is silicone an acceptable tool in order to seal the gap and make it air tight or would you recommend another product like maybe urethane?
 
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Thanks for the link but I already read all of that before posting my topic.

That topic is actually how I found out about the speaker sizes, the ohms needed the bass blockers for the rear 3.5" speakers etc however I could not find any information about the specific woofer I'm interested in.. the exact fitment clearence and HOW to fit the 10" subwoofer in the stock box .. if silicone was ok to use to fill a gap .. etc.. I'm hoping someone can clear those parts up for me
 
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You will lose a lot of volume going from 2 ohm to 4 ohm, especially because the JBL have a high sensitivity, not sure what the Polks are but I would look for something with at least a 90 db sensitivity. The issue with the sub is not as much depth as it is width of the speaker motor (magnet) and the basket, the factory box gets narrow fast, I ended up cutting out the back of mine and then resealing it. I made a ring out of dense foam to put between the speaker and box to help it seal. I also took the signal from the factory amp output (used the plug from the factory speaker and made a cable with the factory speaker plug on one end and bare wire on the other) and put it into an amp inside the passenger seat using the high level inputs, the amp was only $100 and it works quite well. Soon the amp gets replaced with the Zed Audio and I will install a new headunit. I wanted to see what I could do for $200 on the sub. I would absolutely say the best thing you can do is go to the web site for sounddeadeningshowdown and get the door kit at a minimum, it is a lot of work but will give you more benefit than anything else you can do, it makes the factory system sound fantastic (thanks Don) if you want more info you can PM me.

I looked at the Alpine sub and it will most likely fit well
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I made this one fit and it is bigger by quite a bit.
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You will lose a lot of volume going from 2 ohm to 4 ohm, especially because the JBL have a high sensitivity, not sure what the Polks are but I would look for something with at least a 90 db sensitivity. The issue with the sub is not as much depth as it is width of the speaker motor (magnet) and the basket, the factory box gets narrow fast, I ended up cutting out the back of mine and then resealing it. I made a ring out of dense foam to put between the speaker and box to help it seal. I also took the signal from the factory amp output (used the plug from the factory speaker and made a cable with the factory speaker plug on one end and bare wire on the other) and put it into an amp inside the passenger seat using the high level inputs, the amp was only $100 and it works quite well. Soon the amp gets replaced with the Zed Audio and I will install a new headunit. I wanted to see what I could do for $200 on the sub. I would absolutely say the best thing you can do is go to the web site for sounddeadeningshowdown and get the door kit at a minimum, it is a lot of work but will give you more benefit than anything else you can do, it makes the factory system sound fantastic (thanks Don) if you want more info you can PM me.

I looked at the Alpine sub and it will most likely fit well

Please correct me If I'm wrong but the front stock speakers are 2ohms and the rear 4ohms. The ones I listed above as wanting to buy are also exactly that.. I'm seeing 2ohms on those JBL'S and not 4, am I missing something?

JBL Grand Touring Series GTO607C 6-1/2" component speaker system at Crutchfield.com

and

Polk Audio db 351 3-1/2" 2-way Speakers

I also plan to use these bass blockers on the 3.5" polk audios

Bass Blockers Crossovers for 3.5" 4" or 4x6" Speakers - eBay (item 290328359871 end time Dec-28-09 15:41:37 PST)

As for the dense foam, can I purchase this in a hardware store like Lowes or do I have to go to a radio shop?

Thanks!!
 
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#9 ·
Thank You, I will have a look for the proper foam and I will order the speakers listed above. Once I have everything set up I will post here and confirm fitment.

One last question, is there a big difference from one bass blocker to the other?

I found two that say they are made for 3.5" speakers however they both have different numbers and I must say that I'm lost when it comes to ohms, hz and watts :(

which is better for our cars out of these two

Bass Blockers Crossovers for 3.5" 4" or 4x6" Speakers - eBay (item 290328359871 end time Dec-28-09 15:41:37 PST)

or

Stinger 0 - 2.8 Khz Bass Blockers Car Speakers SGJ95 - eBay (item 310187106445 end time Dec-13-09 18:42:03 PST)

do we also need some on the tweeters for the front speakers?
 
#10 ·
Here is the scoop on bass blockers, they roll off so they don't kill everything a a set frequency, they do not just cut off at a set frequency, I ignored the stuff about what size speaker they were for. What you want is a blocker (it's just a capacitor) that blocks below 300 mhz at 4 ohms, I have 150 hz blockers now and tried 600 mhz, the 150 hz are just a little to low, 300 should be about perfect, it will be 12 db down at 75 hz which is just about perfect.